Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

It was close but Floyd's win over Conor McGregor put him over top. Not to mention his impressive victories over Andre Berto and Victor Ortiz. Meanwhile Duran was struggling with Hagler and getting spanked by Hearns.

Mayweather competition was superior at every stage and he always won. Sugar Ray was nothing...oh he won the Gold Medal and smiled alot.
Emanuel Burton better than anyone Duran beat at lightweight. Better than DeJesus, better than Buchanon, better than Viruet.

Genaro Hernandez probably beats Roberto Duran at their respective peaks. Hernandez just gets overlooked.

 

But did not some folks gain even MORe weight & become champions, even though there were less divisions?
From Langford to Charles & whoever else I o not know or am forgetting.
If he had no actual tangible evidence against him, nor no sudden implausible muscle gain or physical symptoms, we should not say he likely cheated.

 

I never made the direct comparison, you did. Lampkin, while smaller, was a better fighter than Baldomir and would have achieved more than him if they swapped eras.

Harold Weston was ranked #7 at welterweight when Mamby drew with him, and Hayles was the commonwealth champion. Mamby's performance against him was considered very impressive. These feets are what got him his ranking prior to fighting Duran - or do you really think a fighter got ranked for losing every round against two all-time greats? You're really showing your lack of knowledge about the era if you think Western was unknown.

Canelo had razor close fights with both Trout and Lara, showing his level around the time he fought Mayweather. A level, vastly inferior to multiple Duran opponents.

 

Name the boxers vanquished by Mayweather who would have beaten Duran.

 

I think that he refused the provisions of testing, that he later agreed to, when a fight with Floyd was on the table in 2010 is highly suspect.

Taken together with his unique rise from FW to WW and PEDs being around in big quantities, I'd be very surprised if he was clean. Doesn't matter much, since I think most have been on something for the last 30-40 years at least.

 

Ha!

Stop.

He won’t even realise that you’re joking.

 

I don’t have an issue with it and I didn’t have an issue with it at the time, as the boxing landscape was completely different back then to what it is now. And due to Manny possessing a huge ego like Floyd, he wasn’t going to let Floyd dictate to him.

If it happened today, it would be suspect. But nobody did testing of that nature back then, and Manny said that the incident with Morales from 2005 was the reason why he didn’t want blood drawn up until the day of the fight.

Most people claim that Manny refused testing. But he didn’t. He just wanted a cut off, which neither party could compromise on.

I understand where some people are coming from when they said that he should have proved his innocence by taking the tests. But then on the other hand, why should he have jumped through Floyd’s hoops after he’d be slandered?

At the end of the day, Manny went back to the table and agreed with Floyd’s number of cut off days, and he also agreed to do an immediate after fight blood and urine test, where there would have been clauses in the fight contract. Yet it wasn’t enough for Floyd.

Then somewhere around 2013, Manny publicly declared to every demand in order to make the fight. Yet Floyd still didn’t try and make the fight at that point. To me, that spoke volumes.

It was never about the testing.

IMHO, Floyd just didn’t have the confidence until he saw a noticeable decline in him.

 

It could be that Floyd bluffed, yes. But Manny should have called his hand, but didn’t.

 

Thought you would not mind it, since TBE was an Olympian who worked with Ariza and had dodgy T/E levels on top of his saline shenanigans.

 

More fanboying. It is the T to E ratio that is the issue on top of the saline which he should have never needed.

Just like Pacquiao, working with known PED peddler Ariza should taint him forever.

It will be very hard for you to act like a neutral poster when you tried to waive off Mayweather's IV while declaring Pacquiao's toradol shot a significant PED.