Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I couldn’t care less about a Boomer popularity contest.

    Floyd beats Duran (see De Jesus, Benitez and Leonard rematch) and Pacquiao would be close to even money. Of course, it’s comical seeing you reduced to fantasist h2h comparisons because Duran lacks the resume to back up the reputation.

    Duran could beat anyone that Floyd and Manny beat, except for the multiple lineal champions and hof fighters who Manny beat at 130 and below, and he’d lose to Canelo most times. That’s beside the point though: Duran was inconsistent, undisciplined, and admittedly relied on diuretics and alluded to using steroids to get by. He would not beat that line up. He’d screw it up which is why he had 8 loses before turning 39.
     
  2. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All 3 are ATG's and you could make a case for each of them having the best resume, as well as being the best h2h.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You should be a politician.
     
  4. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So it's pretty clear your trolling and throwing around fallacies left rifgt and centre.
    I'm not a boomer. I'm Gen-X the last decent generation before you lot turned into fanny's...
    Also pointing out losses to one sise and not the other shows deep bias and your spastic agends.
    Secondly mentioning duiretics and PEDS is laughable when talking about the likes of Canelo or Floyd. I mean are you being serious or are you just doing this for attention? I think it's the latter to be honest.
    I can't take anything you say in good faith. you've been clowned in this thread with your dimwitted logic.
    You should change your name from NoNeck to either NoBrain. NoClue or NoBalls.
     
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  6. Loudon

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    He doesn’t though.

    Wins and resumes are 2 completely different things.


    A resume = Who you fought


    Duran fought 4 prime ATG’s.

    Duran fought 3 fighters who are recognised as 3 of the greatest of all time.

    Duran simply fought the better group of fighters.


    Floyd never fought a true, prime ATG.

    Manny never fought a true, prime ATG.


    They fought HOF’s, but not prime ATG’s like Duran did.


    Duran has the best resume of the 3.

    Floyd and Manny have the better overall wins.
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I did not intend to personally insult your “youth” nor was I communicating with you.

    You just presented yourself by personally insulting me. You owe me an apology.

    Much to your dismay, I cannot mention Floyd’s loses in an argument because he has none.

    This thread is about Floyd and Pac, not Canelo. Neither has ever admitted too nor been caught using PEDs without TUE’s. Duran, in fact, has admitted it.

    Perhaps you should actually make an argument instead of stooping to an intoxicated slurry of insults.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Start your own thread then. Bad loses demote resume. This is why Buck Smith does not rank ahead of Duran.

    You sound desperate tbh.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah. But would he have followed the same timeline?

    Duran had over 100 fights.
     
  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was responding to your initial ad hominem attack and was responding in kind.
    Well if you can't mention Floyd's losses then what about Pac's? I mean that's one of my main points that you (what all haters do) is concentrate on the negative on one side without being equal handed on the other.
    Why would I owe you an apology for your clear trolling? I wouldn't throw heat on someone with a differing opinion but when it's clearly someone doing it for attention then......tough titty.
    Everyone knows about Floyd and IV's........and both have have had a steady stream of accusations throughout both careers. You mentioned Canelo and he did pop so.....also show me proof that Duran admitted to PED use.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Mayweather had am fights, unlike Duran, and didn’t bother with filler.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Canelo’s PED use would have been to Floyd’s detriment since Floyd is the guy who fought him. Try again.

    I listed Manny’s loses in the OP.
     
  13. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think if we're both being honest is a lot of the top guys are on something. it is what it is and mentioning Duran and not the others is a little dishonest to say the least. Also I think it's pretty clear although I can't be certain that Canelo got on the gear after the Floyd fight. It's also a moot point if they're both on the gear at the same time.
    This is why I have a problem with your framing as it's inconsistent to put mildly.
     
  14. cross_trainer

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    Cosign.

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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’ve got to give you credit.

    These threads of yours are always entertaining.


    You’ve just wrote above:

    “It’s comical seeing you reduced to fantasist H2H comparisons because Duran lacks the resume to back up the reputation”


    Ha!

    Do you even read what you’ve written before you decide to post it?


    Duran BEAT a PRIME Ray Leonard, irrespective of what happened in the rematch.


    Name me a fighter who Floyd beat of that calibre.

    Name me a fighter who Manny beat of that calibre


    Yes, Duran was inconsistent.

    Yes, he had poor discipline like James Toney.

    However, we have proof that he could beat a prime, ATG.


    Now maybe Floyd and Manny could have beaten guys of that calibre.

    Yet they didn’t.

    So don’t question someone picking Duran, when he is more proven than what they were in beating true, prime ATG’s.

    You are the one making fantasy predictions of Floyd beating Duran, when he never even saw a guy like Duran, and that he was a safety first businessman.


    Duran would lose to Canelo most times?

    Really?

    You have a real obsession with Floyd’s win over Canelo.

    Most of that is due to what Canelo is doing now.

    You need reminding of the fact that the specific version of Canelo who Floyd fought, was NOT a GREAT fighter, and nowhere near the fighter that he is today.

    Floyd only gets credit for beating the specific version of Canelo who he fought.

    Floyd doesn’t get credit for beating today’s P4P no.1 Canelo.

    A young, naive Canelo stood off of Floyd like a rabbit caught in the headlights, in the same period where he also went life and death with Lara and Trout.

    So unless Duran had been horribly out of shape, he would have been heavily favoured over that specific version of Canelo.


    Regarding Duran’s losses before he turned 39, has it not occurred to you that one of the main reasons for those losses, were simply due to the quality of the opposition that he faced?

    You are living in a fantasy if you seriously think that Floyd and Manny would have fared any better.
     
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