Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don’t care care for speculations.

    Try to imagine how you’d react if Floyd admitted to using diuretics, taking shots that made him stronger, and rolled to the ring with Panama Lewis.

    Now ask yourself if you are being objective.
     
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  2. McGrain

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    Yeah, Duran's win over Leonard is absurd. Leonard is one of the best three or four welterweights ever to live, for a seventies-era fighter to take that step and beat him is absurd, it's crazy. There might not be a better win ever, tbh. It's a lot of distance to overhaul.
     
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    Leonard did a nice job acquitting himself in subsequent fights and showing that he was responsible for the loss because he fought aggressively instead of moving laterally.
     
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
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  4. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Er the IV''s are not a speculation........and I'm saying Floyd cheated so your double negative reasoning will not work.
    Duran v Leonard 1 beats everything the other two achieved. fought over 100 times and was a party animal and never ducked or needed to stack the deck. Did he lose a few fights he shouldn't have done? probably but some of those losses were against top 5 in that weight ever whether your looking at Welter or Middle. There isn't stats that can overcome the reality. As I said in my first post on this thread your ignoring context and nuance. and frankly it just makes you look stupid and shows how little you understand about the sport.
     
    exocet76, Mar 16, 2022
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  5. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did Duran sleep with your mum?
    So your not even going to give him credit for beating Leonard?
    I rest my case...
     
    exocet76, Mar 16, 2022
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  6. NoNeck

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    TUE
     
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  7. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah....
     
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  8. Loudon

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    Floyd was caught with an illegal IV.

    You know this.
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You’re the desperate one.

    Losses can affect rankings etc.


    Irrespective of your statistics, Duran fought the better competition.

    He has the strongest resume.


    Floyd and Manny have the better wins. And everybody reading this thread knows that Floyd would never have retired undefeated had he have fought the same opposition.
     
    Loudon, Mar 16, 2022
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  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look at the answer you have just given.

    Yet you’ve just accused me of being desperate.

    SMH.
     
    Loudon, Mar 16, 2022
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  11. NoNeck

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    The great paradox here is that if Floyd had USADA in his pocket, he’d have no need to use an IV to pass a drug test.

    Even more absurdly, nobody here can name a single high profile boxer who passed drug tests with IVs or was suspended for IVs.

    IVs do make you feel hydrated however.
     
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
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  12. Loudon

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    Duran used diuretics.

    Floyd did PEDS and tried to flush it out with an IV.

    So how on earth are you being objective?

    You don’t even acknowledge Floyd’s guilt.
     
    Loudon, Mar 16, 2022
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    The take home is that you won’t admit that Duran used steroids although Duran himself put it in text and sent it to the publisher.
     
    NoNeck, Mar 16, 2022
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  14. Loudon

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    Look at you.

    You can’t even acknowledge that it was a great win for Duran.

    It’s just sad.


    Give me any win of Floyd or Manny’s that can equal or surpass that win.
     
    Loudon, Mar 16, 2022
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You are clueless.

    A TUE has nothing to do with it.
     
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