Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

Benitez was better than Floyd was at 154, or at 36 years old. Quite obviously so.

Not one of them is comparable to Benitez, and the first two Canelo barely beat. Benitez's resume is far more impressive.

 

You are so blinded by certain things.

You simply have zero idea on how to rate a fight.


You see a fight where one guy struggled, and you see a fight where one guy had a breeze.

You then just automatically think that the guy who had a breeze had the better win.

It doesn’t work like that.


Once again:

Look at the risk factor.

Look at the degree of difficulty.

Look at the clash of styles.


Sure, Floyd deserves HUGE credit for his win over Canelo. HUGE credit. He was 36 and it was an absolute masterclass.

However:

Canelo was pre-prime, and he stood off of Floyd all night, where he never pressed or pressured him.

Floyd had a reach advantage and just picked him off.

Floyd also enforced a completely unnecessary C-W.


Now look at what Duran was faced with:

A HUGE, powerful MW, who was in his prime, coming off of a knockout win over Thomas Hearns.

Once again:

Duran was 5’7 with a 66” reach.

Think about that for just a second.

Barkley was 6’1 with a 74” reach.

Barkley was tough both mentally and physically.


Yes, of course Duran struggled. Because a prime Barkley was much more of a challenge than a naive, pre-prime Canelo, who was the same size as Floyd.


Duran has the better win, because beating Barkley was just a bigger achievement.

 

Come on man.

Give Duran some credit for beating Leonard.

That was a huge win.

 

First of all, I would respect you if you could look at Mod-Mania’s list, giving me your honest predictions for those fights.

Let me tell you something:

It’s perfectly OKAY for you to predict SOME hypothetical losses for Floyd.

NO fighter could ever have remained undefeated had they have continuously fought other great fighters out of their divisions. It would have been impossible.

It doesn’t make Floyd any less of a fighter.


Regarding your initial point, Floyd went 50-0 because he’s one of the greatest fighters who’s ever lived. He had an exceptional career. However, it doesn’t make him immune to certain stylistic match ups which would have been problematic to him.

It’s both foolish and ignorant to claim that Benitez would always have lost to Floyd every time, based on the fact that Floyd retired with a 50-0 record.

It makes you appear like a social media casual fan who doesn’t know the sport.

A silly claim like that just harms your reputation.


Floyd could have retired with a record of 150-0, yet still could POSSIBLY have lost to a guy like Wilfred Benitez.

I enjoy debating with you, but cool off on the stats and look at things more closely.

 

Barkley had one narrow loss in the seventeen fights prior to Duran.

Immediately prior to losing to Duran, he outpointed Tommy Hearns, who was 45-2 (38 KOs) and had only ever lost to SRL and Hagler.

Duran was well past his best days at Lightweight and was fighting four weight classes up at 160.

At 38, he was facing the much bigger 29 year old Barkley.

It was a win for the ages and trumps any win on Floyd's resume.


Floyd's win over Canelo ranks with Duran's more concussive win over Davey Moore.

 

If Floyd dared to fight Barkley he'd end up getting getting stopped, Iran's punches and pressure would be nothing Floyd ever saw before ever.

 

Quite a well reasoned refutation, I must say.

Duran was born in 1951 and the fight was in 1989.

Upon checking out the days and months, it turns out Duran was only 37.7

You finally won a point in this discussion.

( And not even that, if we round off to the nearest year).


Had Floyd fought Pavlik or Bernard and won, that might have been a better win than Duran's over Barkley.

But he didn't.

 

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Strawman much ?

Can you point to where anybody said "...Davey Moore was better than Canelo."

 

Those 'two good wins', are more like three wins - and those three wins are worth more than any of Lara's. And it's funny how you derile Benitez for losing - in a fight he was completely washed up for, and injured - but act as if Benitez was on the same level as Lara and his ten losses. Benitez vs Lara is what the Hope fight would've looked like if it went the distance. Two completely different levels of fighters.

Well done, Mayweather beat a 23 year old who was nowhere near his best and in-between controversial decisions to foot notes of the era, and an old man with one arm. Benitez would do exactly the same, and you're kidding yourself if you actually think Mayweather in his final five fights was a better fighter than Benitez was in the dead of his prime.