Myth that American leading heavyweights are in other sports-

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Utter1, Jul 9, 2009.


  1. Drake

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    I bet we can find some great boxers in China as well because almost 1,400,000,000 people live there...there is no such a thing as greatest boxers are born in the USA, or Europe countries, it depends mostly from a person not a country.
     
  2. Stoic

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    Aryvidas Sabonis was suppressed in the Soviet era- now he could have beaten some big time ass in boxing-7'3 280 lbs. and quick and powerful.
    Bowe and Tyson were lucky they never met him in the ring.
    And,btw,
    He also would have been one of the greatest centers of all time had he been allowed to play in the US when he was younger.
    My point is that now that the political theater in Europe has thawed there will be contestants and more talent available that was absent in the Bowe-Tyson era.And they actually enjoy the sport.
    Wlad and Vitali are just the beginning of a barrel of European talent-- diluting the once dominating American boxing scene.
    Get over it, you crybabies:crybaby:crybaby
    You ain't seen nothing yet.:bbb
     
  3. Ayatollah

    Ayatollah ESB's Godliest poster Full Member

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    Sure, just like the Djiboti's best navy-seals are really fishermen now..

    **** off you american heathens, infidel, pork eating non-euro sport loving ***gots.
     
  4. Drake

    Drake Member Full Member

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  5. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's the way I see it. And I know first hand of several football players that tried their hand at boxing and impressed some seasoned boxing managers so much that they were literally begging them to sign on to a boxing career. Only one of these that I know decided to try be a heavyweight boxer and passed on a full ride college scholarship. He had a decent 30+ fight career but never earned enough to even pay for a college career at a good university. He's now an ex-boxer working as a personal trainer to pay his bills.

    The decline in boxing started right after WWII. The advent of televised football, baseball and basketball greatly diminished the number of participants in boxing. In the 20's and 30's boxing was the biggest live gate sport in the business. In any major metro market you had one or two and sometimes three cards in a week! There was always two or three boxing beat writers at the newspapers.

    What really hurts boxing is that its a dirty business and was even worse in the old days. Fighters getting screwed over by corrupt managers was just the way things were done in those days.
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tell us how you really feel....:D And I know you love pork buddy! You closet swine lover!:lol:
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its no myth its truth....I say to anyone that dont believe it, go to your local phone book and look for boxing gyms for those that can, for those that cant do that look on the internet for boxing gyms.

    As a kid growing up we had 8 gyms in my town today there is only one, if you had 8 then there is now 1 what do you think happened??? Do you think that they started training at home or did they move to other sports??? It has effected the heavyweights the most being that there are really the only boxers that have the size to play other sports, smaller weight guys are for the most part too small to be in anything other then baseball and soccer...In the 60's 70's boxing was the outlet for inner city kids, today that isnt the case anymore, it started changing in the early 80's as basketball started to take the place of boxing on network TV.
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually boxing is far more popular outside the US than in it. Boxing isn't really a sport that is popular like it is in other countries and most athletes tend to start the more prominant sports in the US....even soccer for that matter. You can see with the AM situation in the US. It's just not getting the kind of funding or attention as it once did. It's not a big deal....where one country begins to fade anther rises and it makes no different to me as long as there are quality fighters out there to keep this great sport alive. But it's a fact that the US is not producing as many quality fighters as it once did and that is due to the decline in popularity of boxing. I don't get why people outside the US take it as a "shot" at them. We still love boxing the same, we wish we had more quality fighters especially in the HW division but hey....what can we do?
     
  9. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Ridiculous.
     
  10. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    True, but it's straight ignorant to say that the rise of athletic scholarships, the massive increase in popularity/salaries of the big 3 (NBA, NFL, MLB), and the dwindling popularity of boxing in the states has narrowed the talent pool of athletes available for boxing from about 175 up.
     
  11. AGM

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    I hate it when this bull**** comes up. The argument is only ever about American sport and American boxing, as if there aren't any other sports in the world that take potential boxing talent away from other nation's?! The idea that 'if you're good at one sport then you'd be good at another' is completely flawed anyway.
     
  12. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Take Europe out of this statement and replace it with New Zealand,South Africa and Australia and it would have more credibility (if that's what you're aiming for,or just sarcasm) according to yours and the American's logic.
     
  13. bachatu

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    Good post, I agree. It's easy for those who aren't from the states to criticize and say we're full of ****, but the truth is boxing is not a sport that is easily available for kids to get into, especially now that gyms are very hard to come by. There are so many sports for all kids to get into through school and community programs. Nowadays, if you have size, coaches in high school see that and encourage the kids to play from the very start your in school. Heck, it used to happen to me from even Elementary school, I played with 6th grade kids on the football team even though i was in 4th grade. Same thing with basketball and other sports. Then what happens? Some kids try it, excel at it, realize there are many opportunities, even while still being in High school, so why seek out a boxing gym? who is going to scout for a boxer or a kid to go into boxing? How often does that happen? With less gyms nowadays, it means there are less trainers, less boxers, less 'possible' talent to choose from.
     
  14. Danny_Rand

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    Boxing isnt nearly as popular in America as it was 30 years ago. Yet its more popular world wide then its ever been before.


    YET the USA still holds the most championship belt holders of any nation.


    So suck dick Euro's! :hammertime
     
  15. No10Point

    No10Point Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great OG post here.

    After that it became sour grapes.