Myths about Tyson, what are some?

Where do you find people that believe those things?

'Oppinions by ignorant people are not 'myths', they are just 'oppinions by ignorant people'.

 

he brought a hooker into a mosque in london.

 

Many of Tyson's opponents weren't scared to death, as people would have you believe. Ratliff boasted that he'd treat Tyson like a government mule. Larry Holmes certainly wasn't afraid of him. Tyrell Biggs insisted he could and would beat Tyson. Ruddock too. Tubbs wasn't scared...there were a bunch of them that weren't scared to death.
Tyson did intimidate and scare many opponents, but at the same time consider this:
How many guys raised their game for Tyson?
Tucker probably never fought better in losing.
Ditto Ruddock.
Douglas gave a one-off stellar performance, never before or since did he fight anywhere near as well again.
It could be argued that Holyfield's best ever fight was against Tyson.

Just as many were afraid, many knew that beating Tyson would set them up for life. He was the guy everyone wanted to fight, because it meant a great payday and a chance to possibly establish a great legacy if you won.

This is based mainly on two things:

1) He slowed down after 6 or 7 rounds
2) He never Ko'd anyone after the 10th round.

Regarding #1, yes it's true, he did slow down. Heavyweights generally tend to after several rounds, especially after a rocket start like he always produced. Nobody can fight flat out all night and his style was such that needed immense concentration and yes, stamina, to keep it up.
Slowing down was inevitable, but it doesn't mean he suddenly became ineffectual.
Tyson could pace himself. It wasn't like he went hell for leather and suddenly found himself pooped after 6 rounds. In the Biggs fight, scheduled for 15, Tyson fought a patient, measured fight. Biggs won the first round by going crazy with lateral movement, but he was expending way too much energy to keep it up. Tyson knew this and broke him down eventually. He showed patience versus Holmes and Berbick too.

As for #2, people say Tyson's power wasn't consistent. The vast majority of his knockouts did come before 6 rounds, but that doesn't mean he didn't have late rounds power. It's just that most never saw beyond round 6.
His stoppage of Ribalta came in the 10th round. This compares most favourably with the likes of:

Bowe - never stopped an opponent after 8 rounds
Lewis - never stopped an opponent after 8 rounds
Liston - never stopped an opponent after 10 rounds
Frazier - never stopped anyone after 11 rounds

So, either these guys above also became less effective as the rounds wore on, or Tyson had power in the later rounds, as they probably did.

I see it more simplistically.
Most heavyweights stand well over 6 feet. Thus, most of Tyson's opponents stood well over 6 feet. Thus, tada, it's most likely that the few who took him the distance would stand well over 6 feet.
Simple logic.

People ignore the tall guys he did put away, like Ribalta who was at least 6'5", Sammy Scaff (a bum yes, but a tall one) 6'5", Tyrell Biggs 6'5", Holmes 6'3", Ruddock 6'3" etc.
People often make the mistake in thinking that standing say 6'5" means you also stand 6'5" when fighting. Most fighters fight in a stance that makes them slightly shorter than their advertised height.

Well, nothing to expand one here. To say he lacked boxing skills is mad.

There is truth to this, I believe. I don't think Tyson was effective off the back foot. Come-forward types usually aren't. Thing is, how many boxers could actually force him back?

 

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Holmes did say in his autobiography that he was scared against Tyson and didn't want to go out of his dressing room.

Take it for what it's worth though. Holmes, like Foreman, says a lot of :? things.

 

The fear thing...not being scared of Tyson is an important part of how to beat him. The fault made is often to think that's the only thing you need to beat him, which is quite simply totally false. You also need the right skill, attributes and gameplan as well. So it's just a part...albeit a very important part.

Damn.

 

that he's not a top 10 heavyweight

 

Tyson won that fight anyway, Douglas should have been counted out.

 

it does not change the fact that he was still in his physical prime. What you listed are excuses.

 

While I agree with your general point, I thought Alfonso Ratliff fought scared. Absolutely petrified he looked to me. I dont care what he said before the fight, the world is full of guys who talk big but when the bell rings theyhit themselves.

Holmes said he was scared to get out of his dressing room against Tyson, he was overcome with dread and realized he needed a tune-up before fighting a guy like Tyson. Larry's words, in his autobiography.

 

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Myths -

1. Tyson declined because splitting with Kevin Rooney made him forget his technique.

2. Prison took a lot out of Tyson.

These are myths. Tyson looked like vintage Tyson in some fights AFTER his split with Rooney. It wasn't just downhill from there. After splitting with Rooney he scored textbook Tyson 1st round KOs against Carl Williams and Alex Stewart, and looked vicious against Razor Ruddock too.
Tyson's problem was his conditioning and desire to train rather than a dramatic change of style.
Likewise with prison. He kept in better shape in prison than he did on the outside. Mentally perhaps he wasn't the same after 1988, and then after prison in 1995 but we never really saw him demonstrate his mentality in the ring before that.

In all honesty, I think he was on a decent roll in 1996 but came up against a great fighter unfortunately. Prison didn't destroy his ability, in my opinion. Tyson himself - and Holyfield - ruined him AFTER his release from jail. He still had the gifts to have beaten almost any fighter in the world for the next few years after his release from prison.

 

You are aware of that long 13 second count, right?

 

I'm sure he is, the same long count that Tyson got when he was knocked down.

That's another myth provided for this thread - the Tokyo Long Count.

 

Yea Douglas got up and knocked Tyson the **** out:good Tyson stayed on the floor fumbling for the mouthpiece, with his eye all ****ed up, people need to give that Tokoyo long count Bull**** up, Douglas rightfully kicked Mikes ass..

 

He once had a dream that lasted bloody aeons; when he finaly woke up he heard the shower in the bathroom going; getting up off the bed he pushed open the door of the bathroom and then pulled back the shower curtain to reveal....Bobby Ewing soaking himself.

Then Tyson raped Bobby Ewing and subsequently served some more time in prison.

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