Naazim: "He (Pacquiao) has everything except height and range”

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  1. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    wont need it. mosley is so shot pac will de la hoya him
     
  2. les

    les boxerman Full Member

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    what does clinch+mug mean.also how does it get u busted up.no veteren is gonna bum rush manny looking to get him out early.u haven,t got a clue.he must use his advantages silly
     
  3. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac does not have reach and height advantage over his opponent, he is right.Only at the Flyweight division a long time ago.
     
  4. ceebz

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    I think Mosley is gonna clench like crazy, try to keep Pac fighting on the inside.

    It's really Mosley's only chance.
     
  5. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think Mosley is not yet so shot but still Pacquiao will Dela Hoya him.
     
  6. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Mosley just has to work on the principle of taking Pacquaio out before Pacquaio takes him out in my view. He's not got the ability he once had to trade with superstars, he just needs to push his chin into his chest, grit his teeth and throw some real bombs when he gets the opportunity to.
     
  7. mking

    mking Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mosley will throw a 2punch combo and smother himself, does it every time
     
  8. gilo24

    gilo24 Member Full Member

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    Easy fight for Pac here Mosley is shot to **** will be gasping for air by round 3 and Pac will just be teeing of him just like Cotto lets hope bayless steps in sooner this time than he did last time, Mosley does not deserve the humiliation.
     
  9. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Come on man, that's not a good idea. Pac will annhilliate Mosley if he brings the fight to him. Pac's feet and hands are too fast, and his counterpunching is too sharp.

    Not to mention, if Shane's last fight is any indication, Shane smothered the hell out of his punches on the inside against Mora. He had nothing on them.

    Think about the Cotto fight for instance, Cotto had the most success when he boxed Pac, and honestly I think Cotto has a sharper jab and is probably a better outside fighter than Shane.

    Shane does have more power; however, but if he brings the fight to Pac, Pac is going to counter the **** outta him and beat the hell outta him.

    He needs to box, and try to walk Pac into some right hands. I know that he doesn't have the reflexes and he's too old at this point, but I think this is his only reasonable chance.

    But...I really don't see this as a winnable fight for Shane. I think when he starts getting hit with Pac's combinations, his instinct will be to fight Pac and will lead to his demise as Pac will easily counter him.

    Pac doesn't get enough credit for his boxing skills. Nazim recognizes this and considering the quote, I am sure he is going to utilize the same gameplan Bernard Hopkins would use...

    Problem is, Shane is not BHop and he's up against a monster.
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mosley jab is crap, and his speed and quickness is not what it once was for him to be sucessful trying to box Pacquiao from distance.

    The PED user MP does'nt like it to the body. Mosley is capable of throwing good inside powerful hooks there......so yes, Mosley must fight and keep the fight on the inside even though it is he who has a reach advantage.

    By keeping the fight on the inside, quickness and speed become less of a factor, and it is there where Mosley can take advantage of his strenghth advantage by attempting to smother and tie up Pacquiao.

    I hope Shane Mosley saw and took notice of Erik Morales against Marcos Maidana.
    If this fight goes past the midpoint, Mosley would do well to focus on alot of waist and swivel movements to keep himself from being an easy target vs Pacquiao.
    Mosley is not going to outwork the PED user, so if the fight goes to the 2nd half, he'll do himself a service by focusing on avoiding Pacquiao's shots first, and then trying to time Pacquiao with a big shot coming in 2nd off off of Pacquiao's aggression.
     
  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    That's quite true . . . reason why the guy utilizes foot speed to compensate for the physical limitations.

    Mosley? Yes . . . he'll definitely try to use height and reach advantage.
     
  12. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That clinch and hug game ain't gonna work on a guy like Pac. Because he has great/fast footwork and underrated strength.

    You saw what hatton got for trying to get close to Pac, hatton is very good at closing distance and iniating a clinch and yet everytime he tried that on Pac he payed for it.

    Mosley's gonna get destroyed if he tries that clinch game ****.
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're underestimating Nazim Richardson. Like you said, Mosley is not Bernard Hopkins, and believe me, Richardson knows this.

    Without the aid of a solid piston like jab, attempting to box a shorter fighter who's quickness, speed, and reflexes are insane, would be a mistake.


    You alluded to Mosley smothering himself vs Mora.
    The reason that was happening was that from distance, Mora's reflexive action was better than Mosley's
    Mosley against Mora wanted to be at inside mid distance and dig away with power.......It was Mora who used his own size to not let that happen and force a tie up.

    Now, where Mora would use his defense and size to tie Mosley up to where the fighters are smothering eachother, the opposite will be true vs Pacquiao.
    Pacquiao will in the same situation will do one of two things......

    1. He well lateral around Mosley and use his speed combinations as he moves away from Mosely, forcing Mosley to come out to have to chase him.

    or.....

    2. He will meet Mosley head on and attempt to take the bull from the horns as he did vs Cotto and make it a war.

    If the latter happens, Mosley imo is a better puncher with both hands than is Cotto, and Mosley could win this type of fight....at the very least it gives Mosley a chance.


    .....but if Pacquiao does'nt let his ego get in the way, and does not attempt to war with Mosley in the face of Mosley reaching him and he is feeling Mosley's power........Pacquiao can and will win vs Mosley if he stays at mid to long range just boxing and speed flurrying.
    It will look like Pacquiao is boxing the pants off of Mosley, but what in fact will be happening is that he will be's taking full advantage of his speed and quickness advantage against an old fighter no longer capable of using his legs to cut off the ring.


    Pretty much Pacquiao has to do what he did vs DLH.....use his quickness and speed to flurry, but not to the extent that he goes in to kill his prey before his prey has been softened up.


    Pacroid will win easy if his mindset is to box and move as he did vs DLH......

    Mosley may find himself in the fight and even hurt Pacquiao if Pacquiao is of the mindest he was vs Cotto.
    The mistake here by Pacquiao imo would be that Mosley even at this stage in his career is a better brawler than Cotto is.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Using Hatton as an example does'nt work here.
    Mosley's known for being able to take shots, Hatton was crumbling under any semi-solid shot that was landing by Pacquiao.

    Hatton was clueless on the way to go about handling speed flurries.

    Pacquiao's footspeed more so then Pacquiao's handspeed is what will trouble Mosley.

    Mosley imo will not be in awe of Pacquiao's speed of hand......but he's gong to have no answer for his footspeed.
     
  15. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nazim has his work cut out for him. Shane needs to invest in the body though, and not head hunt too much.