Nacho Beristein: "Pacquiao BEATS Floyd Definitely"

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  1. sailor pops

    sailor pops miam! vice Full Member

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    All i'm saying is Nacho's opinion is very interesting because he had experienced fights with both Mayweather and Pacquiao even on the sidelines. What about you? Were you there? Neither was I.

    Nacho's insight is just in phase with the believe that Pacquiao's physical abilities can outshines Floyd's technical abilities.

    Of course experts can be wrong, but i tend to put my trust and money on someone like Nacho than a nobody from here.
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I disagree with Nacho. Unlike Marquez, Floyd is an AMAZING ATHLETE AND TECHNICAL.

    Morales wasn't in the same league as manny athletically but still beat him in the first bout.
     
  3. finalfight

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  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    dude just spits the truth and you call it crying.

    can't handle the truth right
     
  5. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So easy it took him 2 years to find his urge:lol:
     
  6. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it were really that easy, he wouldn't need a test to believe he can beat Pacquiao. Trinidad and DLH didn't needed a test to easily beat the crap out of Vargas.
     
  7. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

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    Yeah, and Marquez was going to be strong at Welter and beat floyd.
     
  8. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol... Relax cup cake. You'd be hard pressed to find me ever crying over a fight let alone a "MAN" regardless of who he is. That seems to be a characteristic you struggle with by being a Floyd groupie.:lol:

    I know that JMM at 126 and 130 gave PAC fits....but at the end of the day JMM is a legit ATG and was a problem for ANYONE in or around his weight class.

    We can do this all day long if you want by bringing up how PAC dominated DLH, Ricky and Shane in more devastating fashion than Floyd and JMM weren't in the "same class"....JMM was a light weight and Floyd was a Welter.:yep
     
  9. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shame.....Floyd still can't hold a torch to PAC's legacy, which only casts a more negative light on Floyd's career. No matter how you try to spin how BAD PAC is or where he stands in the sport Floyd will always be following behind him.

    Not b/c PAC is so much better than Floyd...PAC puts himself at risk more, taking bigger gambles and all of which has paid off handsomely. Floyd likes to stay in the pocket a bit more which places him behind PAC.
     
  10. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    keep blowin all that hot air chief

    the man with the legacy that cant hold a torch to pac...the one who doesnt gamble....is gettin 40 mil guarantee.....hes doin somethin right

    i could care less...i just think its hilarious how the tards talk about floyds win over jmm like it means nothing...like floyd cheated him.....when the reality is they are gonna fight the same thing in a few months...only an older version
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I agree with Nacho. I can't fully take JMM's word for it since he is probably too proud to admit Pacquiao would succeed where he obviously failed (despite the obvious weight excuse), and the way Nacho explained the dynamics are correct IMO. The way Marquez dealt with Pacquiao's rhythm is not a style that Floyd would replicate. Floyd could win in his own way, but Pacquiao's awkwardness and quickness might make Floyd hesitate or come out of his comfort zone to present Pac more opportunities. Hope the fight happens.
     
  12. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ya lets do this all day.....lets talk about how pac beat them all AFTER floyd did....lets talk about how floyd beat a healthy 154lb oscar.....lets talk about how floyd beats legit 154 lbers and 147lb champions

    not taking vacant belts at 150 catchweights...or beating cotto for a 147 strap that he won beating michael jennings for a previously vacant belt...lol

    congrats on making oscars corpse quit.....oscar said himself he was hoping for pac to knock him out...so he didnt have to stand there anymore because he was so weak he couldnt even throw punches.....oscar was begging for pac to knock him out...and he had to quit cause pac couldnt do it
     
  13. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  14. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    im pretty sure if jmm and nacho were fighting floyd in november...with a percentage of the ppv upside...theyd be telling u the exact opposite
     
  15. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :smoke Call it what you want to make things easier for you brah.

    Look....Floyd's sword cuts both ways.. He's a victim of his own doing and he's gotta accept the hand he's created for himself.

    Floyd is about making as much paper as possible and LEGACY is 2nd....maybe even 3rd on his priority list.

    The way Floyd goes about ensuring he's a "NAME" in boxing rubs a lot of folks the wrong way but it ends up bringing in a LOT of interest and "BUZZ" that equals MONEY! He's got that whole "LOVE/HATE" relationship thing going on with boxing fans.

    So while Floyd is cool with making the money his "Self promoting" style offers him it also comes with a long list of negatives. It doesn't seem that Floyd is comfortable yet with the bed he's made by all his bitching about not getting his "just dues" and lacking the "respect" he claims he deserves. But he may be OVER STATING where he actually stands in his own mind....

    But hey...he's fighting once a year and bringing in $40 mill....I guess that could help ease the pain of all the hate he receives.

    PAC's win over JMM will be just as meaningful as Floyds. Which is kept in the proper perspecitve. It's a good win against a "NAME"...that's all. It does little for their legacies at 144 or 146 b/c JMM is not the same fighter 2 weight classes above his natural weight. It is what it is.