Nacho did not tell Marquez to coast!

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just saw the inbetween rounds verbal talks by Nacho to Marquez in the 11th and 12th rounds.......

    Lampley told us that their interpreter was telling Marquez to coast, that he was winning the fight.

    Most spanish interpreters dont interpret what someone is saying word for word, and in many instances the translation is nothing like what the spanish speaking person is saying.

    What Nacho was heard saying was, "we are winning" be aware and dont get caught by a big shot." (they were very aware that the excuse to give the fight to Pacquiao the first two fights were the knockdowns)

    At the start of the 12th this is what Nacho said to Marquez. Be aware, dont get caught.........."Explode, explode, use the speed you worked so hard for. The fight is yours."
    Nacho goes on to tell Marquez, 'throw combinations and use your head movement."

    This is'nt Nacho telling Marquez to coast, to the contrary, he's asking him to explode with speed and put an exclamation point to the fight.
    ......and having seen the 12th round again. Neither fighter does much but land a guaging jab here and there.
    Lampley spends the round harping that Marquez is'nt doing anything to go out and take it, but he totally blind to the fact that Pacquiao himself who was being told by his corner he needed to put Marquez on his ass in that last round, does nothing to earn it either.

    For that 12th round, I had a note on my card that it could easily be scored even with a slight edge for Marquez.
    My thinking when I was watching it live was that Pacquiao needs a knockout to win and he needed to come out guns blazing to try to do it (his own corner was telling him he was behind.).....but Pacquiao was to leary of getting caught by the hard counters Marquez had consistently caught him with previously and never pressed the round as he should have.

    The intent by Marquez in that final round was to use his speed of combinations when Pacquiao pressed him, but that did'nt happen, Pacquiao just waltz toward him with no urgency what so ever and likley hesitant not to get hit with the counters.
     
  2. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Great post! HBO was bias as hell that night and they all played a role in stealing that fight from Marquez.
     
  3. raiz07

    raiz07 New Member Full Member

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    Still whining b!tches? :rofl:rofl:rofl Pac won deal with it :deal
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep, the Nacho thing about him telling Marquez to coast is HBO's way to have someone to blame for the travesty that was about to occur.
    HBO wanted that crutch, "hey, it was Nacho's instruction that led to Marquez giving away the last two rounds."


    Nacho is telling Marquez in those late rounds "we're ahead" but he never tells Marquez to stop fighting. To the contrary Nacho is telling Marquez to "be alive, keep on using your speed of combinations but be careful not to get caught."

    .....that to me is'nt telling Marquez to shutdown.
     
  5. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    I lost complete respect for HBO that night including Steward "theres blood on Pacquiao face,...........it could be Marquez" WTF!!!!??....... I'm surprised they didn't say it was Prescot s blood,...
     
  6. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    What about when pac lunged and was completely off balance " wow look at Manny s foot work, he was at 3 different angles":patsch WTF!????:huh
     
  7. Thomas!!

    Thomas!! Guest

    LOL whiney girls shut up. Pac won. Move on bitches.
     
  8. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marquez: I'm going for the KO, I'm not leaving it at the hands of the nudges this time :lol:. You can bet that I'm not going to run like coward Mosley :lol:.
     
  9. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Hey, look, another ******* Alt account.
     
  10. JunitoJab

    JunitoJab Antagonist Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  11. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    We can't underestimate how much influence the announcers have on the audience. Especially as most of the audience are not watching with a trained eye. It's no coincidence that the only people that have the fight scored for Pacquiao were those watching HBO coverage.

    In any event, even if Nacho told Marquez to 'coast' (which he didn't as the round was very close). You can't blame him because if Marquez exchanged he would've given Pacquiao a great chance of getting a KD.
     
  12. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whiners, you're still here. Pac won. Deal with it.
     
  13. davebenoit

    davebenoit Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  14. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is getting old.
     
  15. box247

    box247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But he did coast in the final rounds and it cost him.