Name 3 fighters who you feel CAN beat Joe Calzaghe.

Well, you said can. Dawson HAS the skills to do it. I think we can agree with that. I would still FAVOR Joe......by a WIDE margin.

As for the Hopkins thing. We have gone back and forth on this for awhile. I think if Joe wins vs Kessler (WHICH HE WILL!!!!), we are going to get to see this fight.

Hopkins also CAN do it. He is MUCH better defensively then ANYONE Calzaghe has ever faced....I know we agree with that. He also wont be bullied by Joe.

Now I could see Calzaghe pulling it off...outworking Hopkins, but Hopkins DEFINATELY has the skill set and style to do it.

In this one I would favor Bernard.

 

What about a james toney at 168?

 

Hopkins/Calzaghe peak to peak is a competitive bout, with Calzaghe coming out victorious of course.

Calzaghe now has one of the worst styles for the aging and more conservative Hopkins, all out workrate and speed. The in and out movement would have given a prime Hopkins a hell of a lot of trouble just to start with, now that combined with his workrate and endless amounts of stamina, along with awkward shots that Hopkins is going to be open to is the nastiest fight for him outside of the longer Chad Dawson. The guy even had some minor issue's with DLH's movement back when he was in GOOD status, this is just absurd to pick Hopkins, ABSURD.

Only a Hopkins hardcore fanboy would not agree that.:yep

But that's okay... if the fight comes off, which it's a total waste of time by the way given Hopkins' state, Calzaghe will wipe the floor with the old man and get no credit as it will show what little Hopkins has left, which is what I am telling you now.:yep

 

Calzaghe just has an awful style for him and Toney being stationary and philly shell plays right into what Calzaghe essentially does to every opponent.

However, picking a peak Toney is okay, picking the CURRENT Hopkins almost deserves being slapped silly.:yep

 

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You all have to remember the easy equation when picking fights anyway -

Supernatural fighters > Normal fighters.

It's time to grow up and it's time to come to the realisation that not everything is how it's told by the exploitative promotional outfits and the ignorance of most historian/certified analyst cracks that couldn't even beat ESB poster and new boxing fan 'Sweet Pea' in a debate.

 

Roy Jones, .... and ??? and !?!


Roy Jones and.... ?

Roy Jones....


I give up.

Tell us.

 

Hops threw 200 more punches against Winky than he did against Taylor. :good A 40 year old man 6'1" draining to 160 lbs. takes its toll, even for a gym rat like Hopkins. He is a better at Lt. Heavy at this point in his carrer. Hops is stronger, has more stamina, and a better workrate. Who actually looks good fighting Winky?

Glen beats Hopkins? Please, he gets butchered again. You must have missed the first fight. It made Calzaghe/Lacy look competative.

 

I didn't miss the first fight, but I know the state of both guys currently and if you think it's anything similiar to the first fight, try again.

 

Not as brutal, Glen goes the distance, but he still loses 9 rounds in the process.

 

r u serious?

 

We shall see........

I see it differently of course....being the hardcore fanboy that I am :yep ...

Seriously tho. Hopkins will not be "open" to any shots, awkward or not. He is just too good defensively. Other than vs Jones (which was way before Bernard matured defensively) when has he ever been "open" to anything?

On top of that, Joe's power isnt going to scare Hopkins, meaning he will make it dirty....and who is more suited for that type of fight? If anything, I see Joe getting bullied badly in this fight....to the point that ESB gets flooded with hundreds of "Hopkins is a dirty American fighter and should be disqualified" posts (kidding....kidding.....kinda ).

And as for the in and out movement....I dont think Oscar bothered Bernard with that AT ALL. In fact, he was thoroughly outboxing De La Hoya throughout that fight....from the outside and inside. Hopkins timing is insane....the more Calzaghe tried that, he'd get countered and have to eat that lead right.

The only problem I see is Joe's insane workrate. When he has to take it to another level, he can and does....better than most fighters out there. But because of the Taylor fights, where Bernard's whole gameplan was on timing his shots and allowing Taylor to wear himself out, Hopkins workrate and stamina (which is still amazing if you ask me), are insanely underrated. If you watch his fights since then, he was the far buisier and fresher fighter throughout.

Again tho, its all speculation until it happens...which I believe BOTH of us believe it will. And just for the record, you know where I stand on this one....if Joe takes it....I will give him ALL the credit in the world.
































But he wont.....:yep

 

:good

 

You think Pavlik wins? He's two steps below Dawson and Kessler, which both of those you can make a case for a victory.

I suppose everyone forgets the close fight against Jermain Taylor, where he almost was removed in round 2, given that Taylor is maybe half the fighter that Calzaghe is.

 

This is hard question.

4 years ago
Jones
Hopkins
Maybe Winky

But now.
Hopkins maybe and Kessler might.
But Calzaghe is very tough and well schooled.