Name 7 Hw's thats beat Vitali h2h

Louis
Frazier
Ali
Tyson
Foreman
Lewis
Holmes
Bowe
Holyfield
Johnson
Dempsey

 

Don't forget about Liston.

 

Frank Bruno!? Are you ****ing kidding me?

atsch

 

Exactly, your logic is ****ed, your narrowing it down so much it's like... name me 7 people with the name Vitali that could beat Vitali...... we can name you 20 that can beat Vitali , just name off the top 20 ATG's , who cares there ages, or hair color, and any other ****. :hat

 

Probably many ATG heavyweights would beat Vitali, some clearly, maybe a few by stoppage. However the very fact people are discussing him vs. the very best is the evidence people are giving him some credit. And despite probably losing many fights vs. them, Vitali is a style, size, phyisical power and punch output nightmare to everyone. Lewis showed what a deadly combination is a skilled superheavy with good reflexes, and Vitali, giving away a lot in skills, would still have the size advantage, and more.

Before his return, Vitali often blew away opposition in 2 with physical force. Now the averege ATG HW (Ali fought in the 210s, Foreman in the 220s, Louis in the 200s, Marciano below 200) would have to deal with a puncher putting 20-40lbs more behind shots, also with VK's accumulative power and great output. And Vitali is damn hard to hit flush or with 2 shots in a row, even with his hands dropped, he can easily pull his head back and counter. All this is a statistic nightmare they'd have deal with.

Ali has all the tools to frustrate VK in 12, a prime Tyson could easily get on the inside and bang, Holmes would jab beautifully (though Vitali can slip the jab and has one himself) and Lewis would put on a beating. Louis, Foreman, Frazier and Marciano however would be at a size and style disadvantage, they'd have hard time getting on the inside landing their big punches (which wouldn't be as big hitting a target 20% bigger) and could often find themselves avoiding counters. The biggest nightmare with Vitali is that he's pretty much unknockoutable (you gotta rip his face apart) and with rarely getting hit and being able to produce 100 punches per round if necessary, he's damn hard to actually stop or win 7 rounds against. Chambers-Wlad (though I consider Wlad less gifted, but faster, more accurate and more textbook than Vitali), will be an excellent example of the disadvanate a small skilled fighter has to face vs a huge skilled fighter.

 

Guys like Louis and Holyfield give Vitali problems because they had good chins, threw in combination, had great balance and could bob and weave to get into position. Admittedly, Louis was a little more stationary, but he could move with punches and get into position against taller men. Tyson would break Vitali's body early, and get a mid to late rounds TKO. He has fantastic head movement, constant motion and bone shaking power.

Ali and Holmes have the sort of footwork, power, toughness and strategic smarts to make Vitali look clumsy.

Lewis already beat him when he was past prime, and Vitali was in his - so that's that. Bowe was more athletic than Vitali, probably as strong, and had an excellent inside game. That uppercut that Lewis tore Vitali's face up with would be a key tool in Bowe's arsenal.

That would be my seven.

 

Bruno is a glass-jawed second tier heavyweight. . .please don't compare him with Vitali. And can we please get a Klitschko hater who isn't American or English? Seems that 100% of the guys who dislike the Klits are either Brits or American. . .



And why is it that all the anti-Vitali arguments are based entirely on these fantasy match-ups with the "greats" of the past, assuming, conveniently, that he would lose to anyone from the past? I can see a Foreman, an Ali, a prime Tyson, a prime Lewis, and a Holmes possibly beating Vitali. But a Marciano, Louis, Frazier, or Norton? No way these guys beat Vitali. I would lose a lot of money if someone like Marciano or Frazier would somehow beat Vitali cuz I would consider that a huge upset.

 

Here are some further fighters who - on their best night - would be an even match for VK at his best:

Tim Witherspoon
Pinklon Thomas
Buster Douglas
Ken Norton
Gerry Cooney
Ernie Shavers
Joe Frazier
Riddick Bowe
Tony Tucker

 

Bruno would have outjabbed VK and when he got home with that overhand right it was goodnight and thank you for showing up.

So many fighters talked the talk before getting in the ring with Frank but when they sampled that ramrod jab, which carried sickening power, they soon grew some respect.

A young Bruno lost to an experienced and very under rated Tim Witherspoon, a big hitting Bonecrusher Smith who was on the end of an arse whipping and got lucky, Lennox in his prime who was also losing at the time he stopped Bruno and Tyson in his prime (twice).

Each of those fighters are far superior to anyone Vk has faced.

So add Bruno to the list!

 

Tyson, very funny. a prime tyson struggled against big tall clinchers like Bonecrusher. Tyson seems to get better every year. I have tons of respect and call im an ATG but you guys make him seem like an obvious fav

 

The same Bruno had Lewis wobbled and made amatuer mistake of putting his I believe left hand down and got wacked out. He did very well against LL and if you consider him second tier, then how.....never mind LL did get KO'ed twice by HW's that had business KOing him. Bruno wasn't a bad fighter and I believe he was a top fighter not second tier.

 

Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Ali, Holmes, Bowe and Foreman jump to mind.

Vitali can compete with elite fighters, but to conclude a victory for him in all hypothetical matches is extremist nonsense born of emotional attachment to a fighter

 

I've said the same myself in the past, Bruno only has 2 real losses on his record - both to a close to prime Tyson that would have beaten the snot out of both Klits inside a round. In Brunos other 3 losses he actually won the event so they don't count. Also he was green for the first two and only lost because he gassed from trying too hard to KO his opponent in front of his home fans.

Sound familiar?