Name a established fighter that has less actually KO's (not TKO'S) then Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough its not conclusive to say that Joe has no power because he has only 2 actual KO's, but it is a little odd that it is very difficult to find anyone with less actual KO's then Joe. Only two have been able to be found so far (prob out of 50-100 boxers), I'm sure there are more, but still.

    Generally speaking and there are many exceptions to the rule, but as a general trend the big hitters tend to have more. For example Mike Tyson has 16 actual KO's, Paulie Malignaggi has 1.

    Its a very wild observation perhaps and I admit that, but I don't think KO's are totally irrelevant when speaking about a boxers Power.
     
  2. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bull**** thread.

    Fact is refs are less likely to let a fight continue these days when a fighter is taking a walk down ***** street, and often dispense with a count if a guy goes down hard. To try and judge punch power by KO's as opposed to KO's and TKO's is stupid. Do you think Haye punches like a fairy as he "only" has 3 KO's to his name?
     
  3. JonOli

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    So your unable to find a boxer with less actual knockouts then Joe then.
     
  4. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What, other than the clearly feather fisted Jermain Taylor?
     
  5. JonOli

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    There are obvious exceptions to the rule but as a general trend the bigger punches tend to get more KOs.
     
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    paul malignaggi,jermain taylor,sergio mora,gavin rees (0kos),ngoudjo (0kos)
     
  7. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    David Haye clearly proves that the rule is bull.
     
  8. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and what does this matter,bigger punchers usually have a greater reliance on exactly that,this can be hazardous to their success.someone like calzaghe is not a big puncher yet has 32 kos on his record and that says alot,he clearly has the attacking prowess to hurt people and although he may not one punch ko people his tactic is much more sound than 99.9% of others.if we think of all the big punchers through time they usually have met a gruesome demise and rely too much on their power,while joe realises that he must stay in amazig condition to pull of what he does in the ring.

    i must be honest,this thread really does seem quite trollish,nobody has ever argued about joe's power,it isnt big but it's still there and no fighter will wave their chin at him anytime soon.
     
  9. maximumsg

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    after seeing joe chop down at hopkins head I will believe anything. Worst puncher I've ever seen. Gets killed vs prime hopkins
     
  10. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    whats that got to do with anything we're talking about you little shithead,go take your trolling bull**** some place else.
     
  11. JonOli

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    Perhaps its just pure coincidence that only a couple or so of established boxers can be seen to have worse actual KO records then Joe; out of all the hundreds upon hundreds of boxers both past and present out there.

    I'm not Joe's his biggest fan and neither do I dislike him, but all throughout his career Ive never been hugely keen on watching his fights because of his lack of real power. Perhaps thats not a reason not to like a boxer, but that is the way I have always felt. I respect that other people feel differently and believe that he once possessed a fair amount of punch. I myself have honestly never believed that (I admit I didn't see a huge amount of him pre his first title fight (Pre Eubank fight), but I have never seen him as a puncher.


    We all have different opinions and at the end of the day that's mine. I respect that other peoples are and will be different.
     
  12. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For a someone to have perhaps the biggest puncher in the world at the moment in his avatar, a guy with a grand total of three KO's, to be saying this just strikes me stupid.
     
  13. JonOli

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    Haye has only fought 22 fights, one of which he lost, (less then half as many as Joe) and the Enzo Maccarinelli fight was all but a KO and should have made it 4.

    I've had this Haye avatar since I joined, but think I will be changing it because people are really starting to over estimate David Haye. He is totally unproven in the Heavy Weight division. Hes got power there's no question about that, but I wouldn't go around like you stating he's the hardest puncher in the world at this moment in time. He couldn't take out Carl Thompson when he needed to and got the sh1t beaten out of him. There are Heavy Weights out there who may well take his head off, we will have to just wait and see. Don't believe the hype, David Haye has it all to prove in the Heavyweight division.

    As I stated if you wish to believe that Joe is a powerful puncher then that is your prerogative. Personally I don't and believe his record displays this.
     
  14. LiamE

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    Lets ignore HW for now... at cruiser Haye is/was a brutal puncher. No question.

    By saying the Enzo fight was all but a KO surely you must see the flaw in your logic. A man gets seperated from his senses and its a TKO. A man gets knackered and takes a knee for 10 seconds and its a KO. The KO/TKO divide simply is not what it used to be and cannot be used a stick to judge punching power by.

    For the record unlike you I watched many of Joe's early fights. The guy had a lot of pop.
     
  15. JonOli

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    As I said its hardily a perfect logic but a generalisation that perhaps displays a trend, perhaps it doesn't.

    I just thought it odd that nearly next to absolutely nobody (boxers past of present) have less genuine KO's on there record then Joe.