Name a fighter that would have beaten RJJ the night he fought Toney

Roy Jones Jr 154: Beats any boxer, except SRR
Roy Jones Jr 160: Beats any boxer, except SRR-Hagler
Roy Jones Jr 168: Beats any boxer, except SRR-Hagler-Spinks

 

pointless trying to debate with me huh? so you do exactly that in the very next post. you must be the brains of this outfit. just don't go giving any pay rise to the manager, he doesn't deserve it.

i was the one who said i cringed when reading your posts way back when. now you use it to fire back at me. YAWN! please be more imaginative when making replies, it keeps things fresh you see. gets boring if someone fires back with things you've said to them.

how you can call someone deluded is beyond me. no one is crazier for someone the way you are for Roy. you have to polish everything up so as not to have a breakdown from all the truth that surrounds Roy. that's straight up hero worship that is.

disrespectful????? you really make me laugh. go and check all the times you've lied about Calzaghe to suit your course whilst at the same time cover up for all of Roy's bull****. priceless poster you are.

when someone makes a choice to be a Pro fighter, they have to take the rough with the smooth when it comes to the public and the choices they make with their career, and that's that. Roy had been a coward and a drug cheat for years. but you don't like me telling the truth about your little hero do you? shame.

doesn't matter which way round it was... Joe and Roy should have got it on. you fight the best. full stop. you have all the excuses about Roy not fighting certain fighters due to King and blah blah blah. but here, we have someone not connected to King. did he fight him? did he hell.

wow! Roy unified against a load of dead beats at LHW. unfortunately, not against the one that mattered the most.

and again you have your special little slant on things... Joe didn't fight those guys through choice over the bigger names, he fought them due to no one else wanting the gig.

a fighter as gifted as Joe would stand no chance against the "one punch glass jaw" of Jones?

you keep on bringing up this "Reid" ****. how many times do you need to be told about the circumstances of the fight??? i won't do it for the 50th time.

how about 2 southpaws dropping Jones on the canvas hard?? one knocking him out (Tarver) the other making him do the Bambi dance? Joe is also a southpaw who is superior to both in every conceivable way. how about that argument hey Loudon? didn't think so.
the huge fact though that you seem to be missing like always is that Joe beat Reid on a clear decision in spite of what was going on with him at the time. Jones got knocked the **** out.

my little finger knows more about boxing than you do. i'm not the one who admits to getting all their knowledge on the matters at hand from posters and bits and bobs from the internet. that's you. i watched all this happen in real time.

i'll delete my account when your Mum comes back to my house to suck the salt from my balls.

 

i agree about Joe being a problem, but not Ward. Ward wouldn't be able to close range so easily and have his way with all the grappling. Jones would fire off as Ward came in. the fight would certainly take place on the outside. Jones' speed and power would have a field day with Ward's chin. Roy has that one in the bag. no doubt.

 

i see things for what they are. sorry if that's a problem for you.

you didn't take my supposed "agenda" driven post apart did you? so i guess i was giving facts out then... oops.

 

most people scored the fight to Joe, not just his fans.

 

you keep on proving to be a top class poster. respect.

you look at things from both sides, not just a lop-sided view the way Loudon does. and you clearly know what you're talking about. :good

 

i haven't once tried to Troll any Thread or bait anyone. but the reasons why i get to the point where Roy is concerned, is down to you. i never used to until i started reading your one-sided garbage.

i never used to bring up his knock down against De Valle in order to support my case the way you do with Joe. i never used to bring up his Ped use. i never brought up the times he fought certain opponents to back my case either the way you repeatedly do. that's your guilt, not mine.

now days, i think "**** this for a game of soldiers" and just get to the point. otherwise you get nowhere with you and your warped ideas for what actually happened. bull**** and lies is what you're about. cast Joe in an undeserving role in a shitty mannner to dog him. and cast Jones in an undeserving role through nothing but fantasy. :deal

always. you're not just unreasonable... you're flat out talking ****.

 

Serge, a pleasure as always to read the truth. i like reading your posts.

just to add to the Salem situation: if you remember, his trainer Cunningham was trying to get under the skin of both Joe and his father in the build-up to give his fighter a better chance of victory. it worked. it got pretty nasty between the two fighters. i remember them having to be separated at the weigh-in. this is on top of all the things going on with Joe at the time. no wonder he got frustrated.

 

Hagler
Nunn
McCallum
McClellan

 

Hopkins really should of got dqed for his antics during that fight

 

This is more reasonable

The McCallum from the Toney fight would have been a nightmare for Roy I think ..

Also with Mclellan the only way he beats Roy is if he blasts him out early .if the fight goes late I can see a pts win for Roy ..

The fight with Nunn would be interesting ,his hand speed and reach ..I say that's a pickem ..

 

Jones would get Chinned by many fighters in History in those weight classes. He has no Chin. None. One of the worst Glass Jaws we have seen.

 

I give McCallum a very good chance. I noticed he was countering Jones during their fight when he was waay past it.

But there is a good chance that could happen

Nunn from the Tate fight was amazing

 

A fresher McCallum would have smotherd Jones and just stayed on him ..Jones would have had to unload all of his tricks against that version of McCallum

And with out question the Gman could have been the one to had blasted Jones early but his stamina issues would have been the reason that Jones could have taken it late .

And the Nunn fight would have been a chess match no doubt ,both guys with good hand speed I would have just sat back and enjoyed that one.

 

Roy Jones opponents were mentally destroyed before they fought him, lots of iron will type guys were not around. The way RJJ career went, its great management + good luck, even the silver medal and DQ all helped him mentally

I am impressed by RJ at 154, thats why I only listed SRR as only guy to beat him there. 160 Hagler + SRR on top of the list and lots of scenarios with even normal mandatories who had enough speed, power and will...can result a KO loss, risk increases as he moved up at 168 Spinks was the obvious favorite in addition to the previous mentioned

I list the obvious big names to avoid being subjectively biased, so it should be reworded, although "beats" is a good choice I feel

Pacman beats Marquez is as accurate as Marquez beats Pacman :hi:

For the sake of more ambiguity

Roy Jones Jr 154: favorite vs any boxer, except SRR
Roy Jones Jr 160: favorite vs any boxer, except SRR-Hagler
Roy Jones Jr 168: favorite vs any boxer, except SRR-Hagler-Spinks

Do you agree? Favorite means popular opinion (example odds)