Name a top 20 HW that could not win a decision vs. Valuev in the U.S.

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  1. bennyj

    bennyj Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Concerning the half a dozen gifts hes received abroad, who is not good enough in the top 20 to get a decision win in a fair environment?
     
  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It's hard toi find one.The slower ones could all loss do to styles,like example Peter but I don't know.Maybe Arreola.
     
  3. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who cares, the guy has never once gotten his ass kicked by anyone, other than maybe Vitali, nonone can knockout "The beast".
     
  4. keyser

    keyser Active Member Full Member

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    I wonder if Hong Man Choi could beat him?
     
  5. bennyj

    bennyj Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ya, barret could knock Haye down, but couldnt flinch the beast. What happens in a haye fight?
     
  6. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats a tough call, Valuev would probably lose to the superior boxer, though given Haye's delicate chin, Valuev may be able to get him trouble, but my money would be on Haye by decision.
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You do reaslise Barret was one of the few who staggered him?Why did he?Because of his power and most importantly speed and agility.....exactly what Haye has.
     
  8. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Haye has it more than Barrett.
     
  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Probably yeah
     
  10. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valuev is not worther of any part of the HW crown. First off I think if you reach the height of 6'10" or weigh over 300 pounds you should be in a seperate division then Heavyweight. Super Heavyweight would be fitting for the likes of Valuev. I just cant appreciate a fighter who is 7'0" - 325 pounds and squeks out MD's and SD's against the likes of John Ruiz, Larry Donald, and then losing to a 46 year old Evander Holyfield. I hope a Klitschko or Haye knocks him the f*ck out.
     
  11. JAHamilton77

    JAHamilton77 Walking Violence Full Member

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    I'll agree with you that Valuev is not really a worthy champion, looks very unimpressive, and has recieved some gift decisions, I am not sure what good moving him to a "superheavyweight division" would do. It would just create a smaller division, with even more limited boxers. Every fighter would be either fat or tall and relatively uncoordinated. It would create even more worthless champions.

    If you forced the Klitschko's into it, you'd be relegating some of the decent heavyweights out there to facing this bunch of slobs.

    Honestly as you move upto the heavyweight division, the law of diminishing returns kicks in as far as height and weight advantages go.
     
  12. The Whaler

    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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    That would be the worst division in boxing history. It would be Valuev vs. Butterbean for the title.
     
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  14. dwh103

    dwh103 New Member Full Member

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    Butterbean UD by workrate :yep