Name any MW who beats Monzon

Thanks buddy. I saw the Alexis Arguello vs Ruben Castillo live at the same venue on Jan 20 1980 with my Dad, Arguello defended his WBC World Junior Lightweight Title with a KO 11 of Castillo. When I saw Carlos Monzon that day in March 1979, those eyes did not seem cold but when we nodded up at each other it was done with a smile from the both of us. The strangest place I saw a fight live was when my Step Dad and I saw the Tommy Hearns vs Randy Shields WBA Welterweight Title bout on April 25 1981 in Phoenix, Arizona, it was stopped in round 8, a stoppage by Hearns, the crowd that day went wild as Shield did his best to hang in there before the stoppage by the ring physician.

 

I am sure King Carlos Monzon had seen a lot of different styles as he had over 100 pro fights in a career that began on Feb 8 1963 and ended in retirement with his World Middleweight Title on August 29 1977. Those fighter mentioned did not retire with their titles as Carlos Monzon did in 1977 after a nearly 7 year reign, and 14 successful title defenses.

 

Agree with SRR and Hagler, I think Hagler has the edge in ring IQ and conditioning, and SRR is just way too much dog

 

I think that Carlos Monzon would have cut off the ring on Michael Nunn, forcing him into a firefight, remember Monzon had over 100 pro bouts, he must have encountered a lot of different styles, some American imported fighters early in his career in a career that began in Feb 1963. I don't think that Marvelous Marvin Hagler beats Carlos Monzon, as Hagler was too inconsistent in big fights, first Antuofermo, Duran, and of course Sugar Ray Leonard. I do respect your opinion as this siter is made of various opinions, as I have given mine and like others I am sticking to mine. In reality we will never know, we can only speculate.

 

I've only seen a couple of Monzon's fights in full, and bits and pieces of others, but I've only seen him against shorter fighters coming forward. No idea how Nunn would do, but I'd like to see how Monzon deals with a style like that. Which opponent of Monzon would you say most resembled Nunn in style?

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Hi Buddy.
I can't think of any challenger that fought like Nunn, maybe more learned posters than me can, as @Richard M Murrieta as already stated Monzon might force Nunn into a fight, or he might prefer to punish him at long range, of which very few were better, as with all truly great champs, they find a way, no matter about being outboxed, or trailing on points, there is something intrinsic to their nature about being the best, they know it, and more often than not their opponent knows it, was there ever a more implacable fighter than Carlos, his manager Brusa felt he was inhuman on some level, said he had an unbending will, with ice in his veins, for sure he was arrogant, ill mannered, and uncouth, to put it mildly, but he was also a truly great fighter, some don't get it, or more precisely don't get him as an ATG, those of us that see it, can't understand those who don't, never the twain.
Stay safe USFBULLS 727, like your post, and your demeanour, chat soon .

 

Challenger Tony Licata was a runner against champion Carlos Monzon on June 30 1975 in Madison Square Garden in Monzon's only U.S appearance, his trainer Lou Viscusi wanted Licata to remain on his bicycle but he was continually baited into the more experienced Monzon's trap and ended up getting into a firefight with Carlos, it ended with Monzon winning by a TKO 10. While Licata may have not been as fast as Michael Nunn, Licata tried to run but was baited, also Monzon began to cut off the ring on Licata which ended with Tony tasting the canvas twice in round 10 due to combinations by Monzon.

 

Thanks for the kind words. I think I know what you mean about certain fighters knowing they're the best, as well as the opponents maybe knowing the same. I always thought that went on in a lot of Ali's fights. Definitely not a bad thing to have that kind of psychological advantage.

 

I say at 160 RRJ beats anyone ... too fast and matches Carlos in size ... Hagler is a hell of a match up and actually matches Monzon on reach at 75" or so but the Marvin that at times doubted himself and fought cautious could lose a decision he possibly should win ... not sure about SRR at 160 , would have to be the 30 year old version that beat LaMotta and not the older version ... Greb who knows ? Toney could be very tricky but would he be busy enough ? It's such a deep division history wise ...

 

What about Joe Calzaghe? I think he’d had a decent go at it.

 

Ok, just watched Monzon-Licata. Monzon looked a bit frustrated in the 3rd when he had his arms outstretched, and was waiving Licata in. Monzon seemed to be following him rather than cutting off the ring earlier in the fight, but adjusted at some point. Monzon looked like a complete mediocrity at times early in that fight, but from about the 8th round on, he was in a completely different gear, and absolutely punished Licata.

I still think Nunn at his best would have been a more difficult task for Monzon than Licata was. He clearly had better hand/foot speed, and just a better boxer. I can also see how Monzon would track him down. Still the matchup I would have wanted to see.

 

How do you think Nigel Benn, Steve Collins ,Chris Eubank and Michael Watson would acquit themselves? I’m not suggesting they’d win but what do you think the most possible outcomes are against any of the aforementioned?

 

Those fantasy fights would have probably taken place in either Italy or France as the taxes in the U.S were high when Carlos Monzon defended his title against Tony Licata on June 30 1975, his only U.S appearance. And it would be interesting to see your take on these proposed fantasy matches.