Name Fighters That Aren't Tailor Made For Mayweather?

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  1. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You really need me to explain,

    I'll make it simple - you are not going to outbox the master boxer Floyd - he wasted away his size advantage by hardly ever making it rough - he should wrestled him - made it dirty - manhandled him, instead he boxed with him, they came with the idea they can solve Mayweather in the ring - I can say for certain no top trainer would have come up with that stupid gameplan.
     
  2. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Canelo is not a pressure fighter. He lacks the stamina, footwork, and footspeed to be an excellent pressure fighter. Every time he did try to press Floyd, he got countered silly or Mayweather escaped with ease. Just look at the one sequence where Canelo backs Mayweather up, loads up, and misses entirely while hitting the ropes. Mayweather was long gone and had time to look at the ropes and taunt Canelo before Canelo could mount another attack. Canelo's loss in that fight had nothing to do with a gameplan and everything to do with Canelo's weaknesses compared to Mayweather's strengths. No top trainer would come up with a gameplan that is based upon the fighter fighting to his weaknesses. Now if Maidana came in with a gameplan to box with Mayweather, that would be stupid.
     
  3. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    none are tailor made until Floyd beats them then all the sudden they were too easy. many people on here said Floyd was ducking Alvarez until he took him to school. Lara Maybe has a chance against Floyd but if he loses to Alvarez then the fight would lose all credibility.
     
  4. Stylez G.

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    You have to admit, Gatti was tailor made for Mayweather. You couldn't dream up a more perfect foil for Mayweather to display his talents.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    Khan will fare roughly the same as most of the recent fighters, he wins maybe a round or 2. He won't fare as well as Cotto did (won 3 rounds, bloodied his nose).

    Yeah, not everyone can be like Marvin Hagler, and switch from a boxer-puncher to a bull.

    A lot of fighters should have fought in different ways in certain fights, but it's easier said than done.
     
  6. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    Amir Khan is really the only one that comes to mind for me, although it's very easy to see Mayweather stopping him.
     
  7. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you think Floyd couldn't stick and move vs Cotto? You think his foot speed and his elusive ability was completely naturalized, even though he says before the fight he would stay in the pocket? Maybe.. After those fights people thought he was slowing down and losing his legs, so he boxed circles around Guerrero...

    Everyone thinks that you should pressure him and just throw punches.. The last guy who did that, Oscar, missed so many times that while he was getting points for looking like he was staying active, he was also losing points for missing do badly.. Hitting air takes everything out of you because you expected to hit something but you didn't, now you have to use you abs to stop and bring it back while probably getting punched in the face..Impossible to beat Floyd if you tire out for obvious reasons...
     
  8. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even a past it Cotto is greater than Guerrero, guerrero is **** - he cant close the ring off like Cotto - Floyd says **** like am going to walk him down and beat him up against everyone, if he could hit and run he would have, everytime cotto failed to cut him off properly thats what he did, floyd would not get himself in a position to get hit if he had a choice, a past it Cotto still remains his best opponent in recent years along with Canelo (Style wise Cotto matched up better).

    Trying to Box with Floyd whilst being canelo was the dumbest thing you could do, you must use your size he didn't, couple of times he did push around and wrestle floyd he had moderate success, he should manhandled floyd, no one is saying go on the inside and do what castillo did, but he should fought more dirty instead of having clean boxing match - that was clear inexperience of himself and his team

    I had Cotto winning 3, Canelo 2 (i think) RG 1 - I think khan can win 3 and do maybe as well as cotto
     
  9. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mandhandled Floyd? It's not that easy. In order to do that, he has to be able to trap Mayweather. What sort of gameplan would have allowed him to consistently trap Mayweather when Mayweather has the faster feet, the better footwork, and the better jab?
     
  10. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im pretty sure he would get something threw .
     
  11. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    Is this shell, the only weapon in floyds armoury? this is a question nobody has ever answered!!
     
  12. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought I've answered this a few times in this thread alone.. You see Floyd defend himself in many different ways.. He pulls, he showed a high guard against Canelo, he has his shoulder roll, he can duck your punches, and he can just use his feet to stay away from you.. He can go from defence to offence without thinking about it.. People act like he spends a long time just standing there in defence mode until you stop punching or he can counter you.. He may do it and he may not.. That's why everyone says stay aggressive the whole fight beats Floyd but the people who gets paid to study him and train their fighter.. Either that or its just damn hard or impossible to do so... I guess some people just don't get it...
     
  13. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    am not saying it would have worked, but would have more than the boxing gameplan - Mayweather has the faster feet, better footwork and better jab than cotto (the version Floyd fought) - why did he manage to close off the ring??

    Canelo at times did manage to get into good positions instead of roughing floyd up he tried to break his defences using boxing skills
     
  14. Stylez G.

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    Cotto is a pressure fighter. He has pretty good footwork, and is adept at cutting off the ring. That is not Canelo's game. A game plan that centered around Canelo pressuring Mayweather is pretty much equivalent to Bradley's game plan of trying to knock out Pacquiao with one punch. Bradley is not a knockout puncher. Canelo is not a pressure fighter. He did try to do so during the fight, but he's simply not equipped to pull it off with any sustained success against a guy like Mayweather.
     
  15. Beatdaddy

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    I could see GGG and Lara posing some issues at 154 (no catch weight). Porter and Pacquiao's styles might be able to challenge Floyd some at 147. These would all be far more interesting fights than the ones we've been seeing from him, but I'd still favor Floyd in all of them.