Name Me a ATG with a weaker resume than RJJ?

What do you mean by this, I don't understand:

"yeah he also beat macallum roy jones is the only guy that gets anywhere enar calzaghe."

 

But you clearly don't know much about it. Robin Reid? Richie Woodhall? Please.

 

Both Reid and Woodall were very good fighters, but simply not on the level of the MW/SMW's of the UK from the 80's/90's.

In order.....

Benn
Eubank
Watson
Collins
Woodall
Reid

Not sure where to place Herol Graham - probably #1, #2 at worst.

 

i wouldn't agree with collins, you're to ****ing stupid to read what i put about herol graham not being the same as the other two, find one place where i have even said that.
Also the mighty watson who was injured before he had the chance to prove much, his resume is very weak so how can you really say he is betetr than robin reid. Reid who should have won another world title when he battered sven ottke but was robbed in one of the worst con jobs in boxing.

 

The Robin Reid that met Calzaghe would beat Herol Graham and be competitive with Collins.

He may not be a better boxer than Graham, but he's a better fighter. Too harder puncher and too big for the frail and destined to lose Graham.

 

Redefine resume?? Im defining it as quality of opposition and performance against them not victories .

Shane fought ATG DLH twice, Ill match that with RJJ fighting Toney and BHOP. To be fair Id give the edge to Roy for winning more convincingly, but hes not the one going up in weight.

Shane also fought Winky, now this depends if you consider Winky ATG, hes borderline.. and a Great prime Cotto... Roy doesnt have anyone in this what I would call B+ category. This one goes to Shane Big!

Not lets move on to second tier guys or prime fighters...
Forrest was prime, 2nd fight was close. RJJ had Tarver, Ruiz, Hill... Id give it to Roy

Now lets get to the big names but shot fighters
Shane - VArgas 2x, Mayorga, Leija, Molina
Roy - McCAllum, Tito
Id also give the edge to Mosley

The rest are irrelevant

 

i mean that roy jones beat maccallum, and he is the only guy on maccallums list of fighters that could get anywhere near joe.

 

Oooh getting touchy now are we?

Had you watched Steve Collins, Herol Graham, and Michael Watson fight as you say you have, then you would already know all three were far better fighters than Richie Woodhall or Robin Reid. There's not really anything else to say really.

That, in conjunction with the fact you think Calzaghe's resume is better than McCallum's, show that you are the stupid one my friend.

 

Reid DID NOT batter Sven Ottke.

He was clearly ripped off by the ref and judges, and was a clear winner - but it was hardly Klitschko vs Danny Williams.

More like DLH vs Mosley II

 

get the **** outta here with this bull****

 

Graham was a middleweight, Reid was a supermiddleweight.

Was Graham better at middleweight or was Reid better at supermiddleweight?

For me, it's a no contest. Graham was a far better middle than Reid was a supermiddle.

Therefore, McCallum moving up a weight division to defeat Graham is a far better win for the resume than Calzaghe beating Reid at his own weight.

 

your lack of being able to read is the thing that annoys me, steve collins is so ****ing overated its untrue and watson althougth a talented fighter didn't do **** all in his career through injury.
Herol graham althougth a master boxer had a chin on a par with amir kahn one shot from a big puncher is all it took.:hi:

 

come on he had points taken away for hitting his opponent.

 

Yes, he did.

But he hardly beat Ottke up, did he?

From memory, Sven spent most of the fight using his reflexes to avoid punches (something which he was very good at), running, and looking at the ref to do him a favour.

Reid wasn't beating him down - though had the fight been refereed fairly I wouldn't have ruled out a late stoppage.

 

To me, losses don't count for much. Otherwise, Freddie Pendleton has one of the best resumes of the last 20 years. He has about 26 losses though.

Jones's top wins are Toney, Hopkins, Ruiz, Tarver, Griffin II, Hill, McCallum.

Mosley's are De La Hoya twice, Holiday, Vargas twice, Mayorga, Collazo.

IMO, Jones's are clearly clearly better.