Name me ONE definite at-or-near prime future Hall of Famer that Mayweather beat

this aint about pac and bradley, its about floyd.
saying a difference in size has no effect on a fight is downright stupid, why do you think floyd dont talk no **** about ggg? because he knows someone 2 divisions above him will push his **** in, just like he should have done to juan but was to chicken**** to risk getting caught.
look, you can give floyd all the extra credit you want, if it makes you feel better about yourself. me, i'll just give him the credit he deserves for such a puss move.

 

this is just plain ole sac sucking. why would you even say something so stupid unless you were just a fanboy who dksab.

 

I've noticed a lot of posters are like that. Generally fair and balanced, until you bring up a divisive figure like a Mayweather or Pacquiao and suddenly they morph into trolls with their capacity for rational thought skewed by hatred or idolatry.

 

Well to be fair let's actually examine the OP's thesis. Who did Mayweather fight in or near their prime that is a deserving future HOF fighter. That's what what matters here, because that's what we're supposed to be doing in this thread.

I've already answered the question. I said Jose Luis Castillo because I believe he should go to the HOF.

 

Who gets to decide if the fighter is prime?

What's the criteria?

Does Mayweather not being prime factor into it?

Was the Mosley that destroyed Margarito prime?

If not, was the Margarito who was destroyed by Mosley really the challenge everyone seems to think he was?

What is it that supposedly makes Cotto past-prime when he fought Mayweather? How does that reasoning stack with Hatton?

Why isn't Zab Judah considered prime when Mayweather beat him?



The trouble with this nonsense is that the argument used against one fighter is the opposite of another. You can't argue one isn't without confirming that another is.

 

Here's why this logic never works.

The argument, essentially, is that you're not an ATG unless you beat a prime ATG.

But if you follow the logic, then guys like Sugar Ray Leonard have no wins against prime ATG fighters on their CV. Despite having wins against guys like Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler.

Using the same logic;

Duran wasn't at his prime weight
Hearns never had a win against another ATG fighter in their prime.
Benitzez in the same boat as Hearns
Hagler too old to be prime

That's how stupid the thought process is.

 

I think I'm fair & well balanced. I love the sport. I'm really & old time type I want to see a fight between two evenly matched fighters, fought on a level playing field with the better man on the night getting the win. BUT How often do we see this happen today?? Not often enough
I know I'll get flak from some people about the way I deride Floyd Mayweather jr. But I believe every word I've ever posted
about him. None of his opponents in recent years was given a level playing field. If youre honest I think you all know that anyway. When it came to Mayweather-Pacquaio I swore that if Mayweather LEGITIMATELY beat Pacquaio Id be the first to congratulate him & say he was the better man. But that never happened. Pacquaio was beaten before he left his dressingroom
sabotaged by the NSAC & USADA all of which has been well documented. Add to this the blatant corruption over IV gate.
Mayweather CHEATED & got caught but was he investigated ?NO way !! Instead the Nevada commission allowed him to apply for a TUE THREE WEEKS after he got caught receiving the illegal treatment & GRANTED the TUE.
If this was not BLATANT CORRUPTION please tell me what is ??
Floyd Mayweather had talent enough to really be an ATG today
But he's NOT & NEVER WILL BE!! Who is to blame for that??
He only has to look in the mirror to answer that atsch:hi:

 

That's just a fallacy though. It happens just as often as it used to, people just have more scrutiny of modern fights and modern fighters than they do of historical fights and historical fighters.

Two undefeated fighters, at their best weight, in the best period of their careers. Name me 5 times that happened in the history of boxing.

It'll be nearly impossible.

 

Leonard is an ATG. Probably not top 10 ATG for those reasons above, but probably comfortably in the top 20-25. Hagler was past prime clear as day, Hearns ruined him and Mugabi just made it worse. it's an Overrated win. Benitez is a lower level ATG.

Hearns was 0-2 against prime ATG's. But he did outbox and come close to defeating prime Ray Leonard (an ATG) until getting KO'ed late. He also made Hagler earn every punch he landed because he basically destroyed Hagler and his body when they fought. Hearns is the epitome of greatness in a loss.

Duran may not have been at prime weight, but H2H he is incredibly dangerous at 147. How can you defeat the second greatest Welter ever not be a threat at 147.

Mayweather just completely never even fought a prime ATG. Forget about him defeating one for a second. He literally never even shared a ring with another ATG at or near their prime.

Marquez is an ATG despite never defeating a prime ATG. His first two fights with Pacquiao showed that he could fight peak Pacquiao to razor close decisions.

Hearns is an ATG fighter. That is clear as can be.

 

Who are the prime ATGs that Mayweather avoided/could have fought? And tell me a specific time period of when.

 

So, you're saying Mayweather Pacquiao wasn't a megafight? Am I reading your correctly?

 

Financially it was.

 

The dumbass said Floyd apologists, lmao. And look at his reasoning, lmao. :nut

 

Prime for prime and p4p!

Leonard-Duran 1
Leonard-Hearns
Arguello-Pryor
Chavez-Taylor
Bowe-Holyfield
Trinidad-Delahoya
Morales-Barerra
Marquez-Pacquiao


These are fighters that faced eachother prime for prime and p4p.
These are matchups that define an ATG career.

What fight of Mayweathers fits along the fights I just listed???????

 

I would offer the following;

Mayweather Corrales
Mayweather Castillo