Name Me Some Fighters Who Are Milking Their Belts?

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  1. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Canelo is milking his Ring and lineal belts.

    Must be the 1st lineal in history to do that :campeon:
     
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  2. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    So if the wbo,IBF and wbc all brought in regular champions and we had 8 world champions at a time would you recognise them all as world champions ?
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    HW- Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua
    LHW- Adonis Stevenson
    MW- Danny Jacobs, Billy Joe Saunders
    LMW- Erislandy Lara
    WW- Danny Garcia
    JWW- Ricky Burns
    LW- Terry Flannagan
    SFW- Jose Pedraza
    FW- Lee Selby
    BW- Lee Haskins
    FLY- John Casimero
     
  4. Bearabroad

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    Ricky Burns is a bit harsh. He just won the belt then inherited a mandatory. Whomever he fights next after Relikh will be telling. As rumours have it, if he fights Broner afterwards then cant see any way this can be considered "milking the belt".
     
  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    He has the WBA middleweight belt. Golovkin has the super.
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I'm gonna give Bellew some time, since you don't need to have a tough fight every outing. He just won the belt in a dangerous fight against Makabu; so that buys him some time in my book. Same with Jamie McDonnell fighting Tomoki Kameda.
     
  7. gmurphy

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    Yes but you you rally recognise the regular belt as a world title?

    4 belts and 4 world champions is bad enough if you start excepting the regular belt it won't be long until we have 8-10 so called world champions per division.

    I don't class it as a world title for this reason. Eg if GGG beats Saunders he gets the who belt. End of

    If GGG beats jacobs , he wins nothing and in one months time the wba will have a new regular world champion. Does that mean that if GGG had all the belts he would only be undisputed long enough for the wba to crown another regular world champion?
     
  8. DannyBhoy

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    Burns was recently declared bankrupt so expect him to milk the belt for all its worth. He gets a pass from me though purely by virtue of being Ricky f***ing Burns.
     
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  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Well according to British fans they have something like 14 champions, and I think some of those are in the same divisions too. Make of that what you will. Depending on how you want to measure these things there are anywhere from 4-7 titles in play for every division: WBC, WBA Super, WBO, IBF, Lineal, Ring, WBA Regular. If you are like me, then there is only one champ per division and the guys holding the belts are really just his top contenders.

    It's not just the WBO that doesn't accept the WBA as a real belt. None of the sanctioning bodies list the other's champions in their ratings. I'm not sure what relevance that has to the discussion. Jacobs doesn't want to fight Saunders for peanuts. He wants to fight GGG so holding onto the WBA regular and becoming his mandatory was a smart move. He can fight Saunders after Golovkin knocks him out.

    Also, I'm pretty sure WBA has a diamond belt, a silver belt, and an interim belt in addition to the regular and super belts. They are just printing them as fast as they can. It's ridiculous, but no more ridiculous than having four to seven champions in a division. The other organizations are more than entitled to water down their product and fracture the titles all they want. They just run the risk of earning the scorn of boxers and fans as well as debasing the value of their product to the point that nobody wants it anymore.
     
  10. gmurphy

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    Well that's not the case all the other sanctioning bodies accept the other champions for unification fights but none of the other organisations accept the wba regular champion for unification fights

    And Jacobs becoming GGG mandatory wasn't really a smart move if he wanted money. He is only entitled to 25% of purse bids. I doubt this will make anymore than 4-5 in purse bids so he will make around 1 million, but i don't think he will take the fight

    I only accept the top belt holders in the 4 main organisations as legit. The lineal i can see its importance but in this day and age of ducking and the best fights not being made it means nothing.

    Look at stevenson he's the lineal champion and he has became irrelevant because he wont fight anyone half decent
     
  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    My thinking is this. One organization having two belts at a time is as legitimate as four organizations having one belt. Either all are legit or none are. Fans know who the real champion is no matter who has the other belts. At this point they are just an indication that the person is world class and should be fighting at the top level.
     
  12. gmurphy

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    The problem is when you have pbc cards in the last where there calling wilder and jacobs the champions of the world and wont mention wlad or GGG at the time.

    The real fans knows who's the best but its an easy way to brain wash casuals
     
  13. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Do they really all accept each other's champions for unification bouts? I've heard some conflicting stories about this. Like maybe the politics change from time to time. The whole thing is mystifying to me the way people get stripped or mandtories either get enforced or don't, and who's rules are we fighting under.
     
  14. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    So you are saying that PBC is following the UFC model like everyone said they would? I can't wait until they start printing their own PBC belts just for PBC fighters. Then Danny Garcia can fight Guerrero three times for one and people will say that the best are finally fighting the best. :lol:
     
  15. GreenMan93

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    I thought Broner said he was moving back to 147.