Name some 175s in history you would confidently pick to beat Kovalev

Kovalev is a better fighter. He is fast when he wants to be. He can be quite the dervish when he smells blood. Look at the end of Pascal 1.

Kovalev is more about timing and placement. You don't need flashy speed if you can put the punch where it needs to go when it needs to go. And deliver it with real power.

Chin wise... well, Roy doesn't have a very good chin does he? Is he the worst ever? I don't know. 5 knockouts. That's something special.

Kovalev knocked out Boone in 2 rounds soon after.

Yeah if you're wild you might get some lucky shots, but look how it turned out for Pascal. He was dominated in the 1st and humiliated in the second.

 

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I was referring to your comments regarding Roy.

I wouldn't have had any money on Tarver, Maske, Dariusz or Hill beating Kov. They wouldn't have been favourites in my opinion. I would love to see him fight a guy like a prime Tarver though. It's a shame that Chad's top flight career is now over too.

 

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If I had a time machine, the first thing I'd do would be to transport George Foreman from Zaire to today's HW era.

I'd then sit back and watch this forum crash, as he walked through guys like Wilder etc.

It'd be hilarious.

 

Off the top of my head, I'd go with;

Moore
Charles
RJJ
Spinks

Tunney and Greb would have to be favoured too.

Don't get me wrong, Kovalev is a bad man but I can't say he'd run through every Light-Heavyweight in history!

 

Calling a boxer a coward? atsch

Yeah, I'm sure he was terrified of Bute. He was so terrified, he then went on to fight Chad Dawson instead, who was the same size, who was also a southpaw, yet who was more proven. Makes sense.

I'll bump this thread when the fight is signed.

 

I respect your opinions on 4 of those fights. I agree with most of them. But you just got silly when you got to Roy.

 

teemy,

The point I was trying to emphasise is that Sergey has been tagged and dropped. He's not the machine that you guys are hyping. Boone is a very good puncher. But he isn't a great fighter. Sergey at 27 could only beat him on a close S/D. This was a guy who went into the fight with 15 losses on his resume.

Roy was on another planet to guys like Boone.

Work it out.

I'm not interested in what Sergey did to Pascal. I'm highlighting the fact that Kovalev would have been easy for Roy to find. Look at Pascal's success in getting through, then look at Roy's speed, timing, his accuracy, and how unorthodox he was.

Why?

Roy had blinding speed and incredible reflexes. He was hardly caught clean in his prime. He was extremely elusive. Why couldn't Roy have tagged him and then got out of range? Sergey isn't particularly fast.

Bernard was in survival mode from the opening bell. In my opinion, he took the fight just to gain the plaudits for fighting a guy like Kovalev at such an advanced age. He still deserves an enormous amount of respect though.

I would love to see Ward fight Sergey. I want to see that more than any other potential fight.

 

Yeah hopefully it happens.

 

We know that if Roy had got caught flush by Sergey in his prime, he'd have gone. But we're looking at how likely that would have been based on the evidence to hand.

Roy getting knocked out by Enzo at almost 47, tells us nothing.

 

I like the fact that people pick RJJ to lose in every fantasy fight because of his chin; completely ignoring the fact he was completely untouchable for 20 years.

Guys like Hopkins and Toney (two of the finest counter-punchers of the past 30 years) couldn't land significant leather on him but in mythical fights, he's going to get cracked in the jaw within 5 rounds. Please.

 

Sergey isn't a better fighter than Roy.

Who says he could have placed perfectly timed shots on an elusive target like Roy?

I know that he took out Boone in the rematch. That's not the point. Any guy who had the capabilities of beating a prime version of Roy as easily as what you think, would have brushed past a guy like Boone like he was absollutely nothing. But he didn't. You are over hyping him.

Roy's 5 knockouts aren't relevant to this discussion. He didn't get knocked out until he was over 35, in his 51st fight.

You are missing the point regarding Pascal. If Pascal could repeatedly land with telegraphed, overhand rights, then Roy would have had a birthday with his speed, power, accuracy and timing.

 

Let's hope that Slavic Fighter doesn't read your post.

Apparently, Sergey would have destroyed all of those guys on your list, as today's fighters are superior to all fighters of the past.

He's got actual evidence to prove it too:

It's that Usain Bolt is the fastest sprinter of all time, and like athletics, boxing and it's fighters become better as each decade passes by. Which is why all of today's fighters are the greatest of all time.

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I don't think so. I think Kovalev would fight Roy like he did Hopkins - cautiously. And that is the best Sergey there is - cautious and present and thinking. Pascal makes an ugly fight and I also think Sergey just did not respect him. He would respect Roy. To Roy's detriment. I don't buy that Roy just suddenly had no chin. I think he hid it with his speed. Sergey would find it, he nearly always finds it. He may have even knocked out hopkins if there was another round or two.

I think he would do what Griffin did but better since I don't think Roy would like Kovalevs power and it would just be downhill.