Name some Heavyweight fights NOT involving the Klitschko brothers

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by pound, Apr 8, 2011.


  1. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    In reality, if you were to exclude the Klits the division would make for a LOT of exciting heavyweight bouts. Instead we have HW fighters trying to cash out against those overgrown super-heavyweight sized freaks and losing as expected. We need a super heavyweight division so that we NEVER have a boring ass klit-like era of boxing ever again.

    These 6'8 250lb freaks need to go. Their dominance wouldn't be half of what it has been if they weren't the overgrown assholes that they are.


    SO lets hear it. There are plenty of other HW fighters who if you matched up well could have FOTY potential.

    haye, povetkin, adamek, chagaev, chambers, arreola, solis would all make for great fights.

    I personally would love to see:

    ARREOLA VS SOLIS
    ADAMEK VS POVETKIN

    or

    HAYE vs Any of them.


    Haye could have been in some awesome fights already but instead hes danced around competition just to protect his marketability for a Klit showdown.

    Nonsense. :lol:

    The Klits do nothing for boxing. They're good boxers, but nothing special. Just really BIG good boxers. Basic though. Like 10 times more basic than a Kessler type fighter. Jab jab, 1 + 2 - clinch. Can't wait till thats over.
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    you cant hate on them for being tall man, you cant just be tall and rule a division for so long klits are skilled as well. The only thing I really dislike from both klitschko's especially wlad is that it seems they can take the guy out in round 4 yet they drag it out till round 11/12. Wlad vs chambers is a perfect example of this.
    Height is a asset which you are allowed to use, a skilled boxer would not lose because his opponent is just tall. Actually the klitschko's are the only thing that are keeping this division together, without them bums would be traiting titles on a monthly basis.
     
  3. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Arreola vs. Tua

    Arreola vs. Peter

    Arreola vs. Sherman Williams

    Tua vs. Peter

    Tua vs. Sherman Williams

    Peter vs. Sherman Williams


    Crude caveman slugfests! :!:
     
  4. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cue Bremen, Bretchko, Silencer and Zenek. I'm sure these will try and prove the ts is wrong.
     
  5. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    This.
     
  6. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    the non existent super heavyweight division is where they belong.
     
  7. Sandmanl337

    Sandmanl337 Pactard Full Member

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    I can go without seeing Peter fight anymore.. If you ask me, he's done for.. Tua vs Arreola wouldn't be bad..
     
  8. ErnieTerrell

    ErnieTerrell New Member Full Member

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    There aren't enough "big" men to form a basketball team let alone a 'super' heavyweight division. The problem isn't that Wlad and Vitali are dominating, the problem is they won't face each other.

    As far as the others, I'd like to see:

    Povetkin-Haye
    Haye-Adamek
    Adamek-Boytsov
    Dimitrenko-Helenius
     
  9. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    DUDE

    When guys like George Foreman and Ali and Frazier were in their young heavyweight days they were fighting at 220lbs and ****. Even the "BIG" heavyweights back in the day were between 210 and 220, somewhere around there. And we complain why the heavyweight division sucks and why these guys are not even hardly athletic nor competitive.

    The "BIG" guys back then were just over 6 feet tall and under 220. How can you compare their sizes to these 254-250lb 6'8 pure muscle sized guys? The klits are NOT heavyweights, they're SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS.

    They are lucky that there aren't more big men like them to have their own **** division at super heavyweight. They're fortunate that only a heavyweight division can house them.

    Why can't any of you understand that the Heavyweight division would be 100x better if you had 200-230 pound guys fighting each other? Fights would be faster, more athletic, more competitive, and more explosive. And you'd always have brutal knockouts.

    Instead you have 6'8 250lb robots that jab, slap and clinch their ways to victory. These 6'0 fat ass fighters basically have an incentive to be fat as hell (the solis and arreola types), because they knew that as long as they are contenders they can cash out against the Klits, accepting the fact that they're going to get raped in the ring.

    Lennox Lewis was a REAL monster at HW, and in a h2h sense he could probably beat out any kind of heavyweight on any given day because the dude was big and athletic. But Lennox rocked out at 230lbs, he was truly a big man. I would say that someone like a Lennox type should be the limit in the HW range.

    In other words the HW limit should top out at 230lbs. Anything above that is insane and takes away from the divisions competitiveness. All the fat ass lazy guys who weigh 230lbs but are only 6 feet tall can go get their ass kicked. But honestly, the integrity of the division would be so much better if we had a more reasonable weight range.


    If you really honestly think about it, the state of the HW division would be BETTER today EVEN with the current crop of fighters. It certainly wouldn't be ridiculed as much. Imagine a tournament with the top HW fighters involved aside from the Klits? I don't know about you but I'd LOVE to see it.
     
  10. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    we dont need another division, they just make the best of what they got, if its terrible then someone ends it, which will not happen because they cant
     
  11. dave-slave

    dave-slave Guest

    are you British? What height is Lennox? I think he's about an inch shorter than Wlad.:deal

    Blame the tv companies. The promoters etc. No one is stopping any other hw matches from occuring.
     
  12. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    I'm not talking about height dumb asses lol. I'm talking about WEIGHT. Lennox is like 6'5 ffs. IMHO - 200-230 would make consistently competitive heavyweight bouts. These dudes who are in SHAPE and 250lbs are absurd in comparison to any of these 6 foot heavyweights.
     
  13. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Just read the topic & realised all the guys i listed in those fantasy fights would be "Superheavyweights" in the 230+ category this guy wants...
     
  14. dave-slave

    dave-slave Guest

    I do see your point. For example, I think it's unfair to have Valuev in the division.

    So yeah, there is an argument in favour of what you want.
     
  15. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    What we need is a Uberheavyweight division for the 300lbs+ SNV & his fellow leviathans, then Butterbean comes back & challenges him in a $100million "Armageddon" Superfight on the moon! :happy