Name some of the most cowardly shameless ducks in baaxing

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, I don't know where I was at that point in time, as I honestly don't remember any of that.

    Can you remember the details?
     
  2. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    google is your friend. He cost Rahman quite a lot of money
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll have a look later.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Stopped reading at Pacquiao having a valid reason for demanding cut-off times to random testing.

    LMAO!!

    Imagine, Canelo, Mayweather. Ward refusing to fight in the biggest fight in boxing because they wanted cut off times for steroid and PED testing.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Okay.

    Let's discuss it objectively.

    Are you capable of that?

    Back when these guys both spoke of a potential fight, random testing of that nature was not mandatory.

    No other fighters did it.

    Floyd did not request any of his other opponents at that time to partake in it.

    The incident with Morales happened years before there was any talk of Manny and Floyd fighting each other.

    Now you know what happened.

    Manny gave blood but it was misplaced. So he was asked to give another sample close to the fight. So he had to give another sample. And he said it weakened him. As far as I'm aware the old 2005 articles are still online. He said that his punches didn't have the same snap on them. And Morales also agreed as he himself thought that there was something amiss with Manny's performance.

    Everything above is factual.

    Manny would have had a 10 week plus camp.

    He wanted a cut off, but was willing to undertake an immediate after fight blood and urine test.

    Floyd agreed with the cut off but they couldn't reach a compromise on the number of days.

    Seeing as there was zero evidence of any wrongdoing, and that there was no testing of that nature at the time, they shouldn't have been an issue.

    Your post is nothing without context.

    If it was the norm and someone just suddenly refused, then yes, it would raise suspicion. But back then, the landscape was very different. So yes, Manny had a legitimate reason.

    Now you can either come back and debate, or you can spam the forum with hate like you used to do.
     
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  6. macademics

    macademics Active Member Full Member

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    Ward was talking about fighting Bellew if he beat Uysk - but went real quiet when Tony got smashed.
     
  7. Alo2006

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    Here is what most people leave out about Mayweather IV. Yes it's illegal use it, but it's what was in it. In which there wasn't nothing illegal in the IV. It was tested and he was cleared of any usage of illegal substance. Now as far as Mayweather wanting to pay Pac a flat fee of 40mil was just a boss move. He was the A side, and most A side fighters try to get the bigger piece of the pie. It was clear that Mayweather is the bigger draw between the two, and it was going to be under Mayweather promotions. 40mil was actually double the amount Pac has made at that point of his career. Yet Wilder was so called offered a flat fee of 50 mil when AJ would have got like 150 mil. Everybody was quick to say Wilder was dumb for turning that down.
     
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  8. The Real Lance

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    It's not the contents of the IV. Is that what you think the entire beef is about??

    The IV's can be used to mask PEDs. Did you think Floyd was really super duper dehydrated!?!?
     
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  9. Loudon

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    Nobody is saying that there was anything illegal in the IV.

    That's not the point.

    The points are:

    The IV itself was illegal.

    They've been used as masking agents.

    It should have been classed as a medical emergency, resulting in hospital admittance.

    His reason for taking it is illogical.

    Anybody who's dehydrated just takes on board normal fluids.

    He couldn't have been severely dehydrated, as he only had to lose a few pounds at the 30 day weigh-in, and all the work has been done in the final week, where fighters are winding down.

    The only guys who struggle at that stage, are guys who have weight issues.

    Floyd had never had weight issues his entire career. He's always in shape all throughout the year.

    No, the flat fee wasn't a boss move. It was just another delaying tactic. Another obstacle. Because nobody is going to take a flat fee from the biggest fight in history. Don't be silly.

    It doesn't matter if it was double what Manny had earnt before. It doesn't work like that. Manny played his part in making it the biggest fight in the history of the sport. Go and see what the revenue figures were.
     
  10. Loudon

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    Exactly.

    Why was he severely dehydrated?

    From what?
     
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  11. The Real Lance

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    They don't like to answer that. I usually get, "Oh, i already answered, search for it...." o_O
     
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's what Pimp says.

    He took it because he couldn't produce urine.

    Anybody dehydrated would just take on normal water or other fluids.

    If he was severely dehydrated, then as per the procedures and guidelines what are set out, he'd have been in no position to have fought.
     
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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C F 12 Stay Dangerous Full Member

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    You get real. Youre the one who cant handle the truth. I dont want to hear the excuses if you have nothing to hide you test and pac didn't he flat out refused to comply. If it was pbf who turned down a prime pac because he refused random blood testing with no cut offs he would have gotten killed and rightfully so. But people like pac more so like you they give him a pass and try to pass the blame to pbf which is wrong.

    The truth is pac's team didn't know if they could pass a random blood ped test because as roach said he didn't know what ariza was putting in those shakes. Roach also said that he needed more time in order to come up with a gameplan in order to beat pbf, a gameplan btw that doesnt exist.

    After the 1st negotiations fell through it was back and forth on both sides arum talking about a stadium pac saying he needed time for a cut to heal and pbf saying he didnt need pac, when the truth was they needed each other.

    Yeah pbf said the time was right, it was and oac agreed they were both past their prime and time was running out so the fight had to happen at that point. You're trying to spin it as if he had been ducking pac which isn't true as i already stated in this post.

    As far as the IV he was cleared period. The rest is speculation by pbf haters who dont like the fact that pbf beat pac easily. There is no ped you can take a day before a fight that will enhance performance. The iv contained saline and a vitamin infusion which was tested. Pbf was also tested after the fight and passed. The results stand. There was nothing abnormal about pbfs performance in that fight he didnt look great he didn't throw 100 punches a round nor did his power all of a sudden go up he neutralized pac with his ability to control range and dictate distance, as people like me said he would do for years.:deal: The whole thing is just an excuse by people like you who want to try and discredit the win. Pac arum nor roach never said anything about it, why? Because they knew there was nothing to it. People like you need to do the same.
     
  14. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    What is worse.

    A) being caught with a saline drip and after investigation found to have been no foul play

    B) taking a ****tail of steroids in the Olympic Games to help inflict damage upon amateur fighters. Then after investigation, thrown off the team in disgrace
     
  15. ShovelHook

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    De Luca is still too big and strong for Khan.
     


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