Name the fighters that never impressed you on film, despite being considered very good/great

Terrell influenced Ali ??!!!!

 

Olympic Gold and Bronze Medallist Dick McTaggart makes me want to scream.

 

Golovkin

 

Well, I once read that Terrell had used Ali as a sparring partner before Ali got famous. Ali evidently liked that such a big man as Terrell had such a good jab and was so fast and mobile, and sought to imitate him, only he took it up another level.

 

Azumah Nelson ...he has a reputation for being a brilliant boxer ...but all I see is a banger with a tight defense....the professor of what exactly?

 

Riddick Bowe - talented but very basic fighter with weak footwork and poor defense
Stanley Ketchel - I don't think he looked nearly as bad as some think here, but he had problems with Papke's inside fighting and I'd guess that brawler of his caliber should have done better.
Jack Dempsey - not because he wasn't great, but because people overrate him a lot.
Tyson Fury - people view him as some boxing supermater but I see very smart fighter who uses his size well, nothing more and nothing less.
Sam McVea - extremely limited in footage we have, but it's very short clip.


Strongly disagree with Langford and Fitzsimmons mentions.

 

In pretty much every Betulio Gonzalez fight I find it's the other guy who's the more interesting boxer. Gonzalez impresses me with his chin, his patience, and his stamina, but for pure points-scoring boxing he's a level below the top boxers among his contemporaries. It probably doesn't help that most footage of him is from the second half of the 1970s. Still, even for something like the Ohba fight, when Gonzalez was much more mobile, he didn't have an answer for the Ohba jab.

 

Pacquiao. I just consider his achievements to be a sign of how little fighters now remember of the golden age boxing skills. I mean, JMM is supposed to be one of the best boxers he defeated? He barely gets gifted a decision and with a shocking speed advantage at that, and he can't beat this guy who is basically just a Mexiclone "boxer" with no head movement who gives crazy counter-punching opportunities to anyone faster, and it's just awful. Barely escaping with a draw after having him down three or four times and breaking or really damaging his nose? Pacquiao is this great fighter? NO lateral movement, can't stay in the pocket, pushes his jab in front of your face and backs up to throw a left hand with the jab still hanging out there, at a push no less, and these "boxers" that are the cream of the crop can't seem to punch over it? MAB? He's like the closest thing to Chavez and he's got nothin'? Oh, God, it's a nightmare. Can Cotto supposedly box that well? A one-armed cross-guard defense is how he protects himself? lol WTF? He's like the third best p4p of the era at 140+ or something?

Pac darts in and out and puts his hands up on the way out and backs up in a straight line, best offensive fighter of the era? Mayweather is the most talented defensive artist of Pac's generation, and sometimes he's just jumping backwards and ducking below the waist like a kid on the playground with good reflexes and zero training. I'm astounded that these guys are so bad they let him do this. I mean, he's a good athlete but the "skills" he possesses would be easily and I mean EASILY nullified by journeymen of the sixties. Guys like Ali's Chuvalo had more of a jab than Pac's Mayweather, ffs, and he was considered a journeyman THEN. I mean, Pac's talented, he's got guts, he trains hard. I'm even a fan, but his era is a gong show. Davey Boy Green basically equals Hatton, if that tells you anything. You think he was considered in p4p contention back then? It just depresses me. Pacquiao has the skills of an amateur from some country that would've had a poor boxing program in the sixties. But people now are rating him as one of the greatest ever? Because he fought guys like Margarito? Chuck Davey would've out-finessed Margo and danced him out of his plaster so easily it'd be pathetic and comical. No one Pac has ever fought has even had that kind of crazy rhythm. They are lead-footed hoopleheads, who think it's illegal to create distance with their shoulders. Sure, he can seem skilled against those guys (and only about 70% of them at that.)

 

gayweatther . spence, crawford

 

I actually was quite impressed with him on film. Though maybe I haven't looked into his record enough to see the contrast.

 

Erik Morales

 

I like him, but I don't find him outstanding.

I think Rigo/Loma toy with him.

 

Years ago the Ring published a series of photos of a sparring session between them. They were briefly roomates too.

 

Miguel Cotto. I can't understand the praise he gets.
Barely scraped by paulie m, fouled His way to a win against zab and clottey,beat up on elderly and handicapped sergio. Not gonna speak about slandering Margarito.

 

Agreed, he just looks crude, and style-less, expected more when I saw him for the first time, that,s all.