NAMPP: Have Mosley and Margarito Killed Mayweather vs Pacquiao?

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  1. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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  2. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    First of all Floyd has been stunned before when he was younger. Hell any fighter can be hit. Margo is not going to upset **** either. You are wrong.
     
  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I dont think Mosley hurt Mayweather, thats a Mayweather trait to me, or its how it seems to me, he gives them a little success early so they are not so wary and are more eager to come forward which suits Floyd perfectly.

    I think its all very frustrating but in all honesty there is nothing so far thats made a Pacman Mayweather fight any less exciting. And to me even if Margarito was to beat him id still wana see it.
     
  4. Urone2

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    I have to agree with you on most of your points, but it seems in the fight with Mosley vs. Mayweather Mosley only landed in the second round. It was because Mayweather was playing around because he thought he was faster and could get out of the way of anything Mosley threw. Ha Ha, Mosley proved him wrong, so Mayweather changed tactic and decided to command distance between the 2 and it woked. Did Mayweather show something new like he could be hit no, ODLH, Corley, Marquez, Judah and Castillio hit Mayweather. If I remember right Corley caught him with a good punch not as good as Mosley but a stunner. This is the fight game being hit is nothing new for these guys, according to some Mayweather detractors being KO'd would be nothing new because it happen in the gym some say. What I think the real road block is, is what you mentioned. The hate that Mayweather and Arum have for each other is the real road block. Then you throw the hate that Arum have for De La Hoya and the problem is compounded. I think thats why the help from Don King is required to try and get the show on the road. But, the Mayweather detractor will say he's just scared, the guys that's scared is going to Don King to try and get the show on the road. Wake up and smell the roses people.
     
  5. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only thing that killed Mayweather-Pacquiao is Mayweather. it's pretty obvious he doesn't want to fight Manny.
     
  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  8. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    I wouldn't say that Mayweather was playing around early in the fight. Typically it takes him a few rounds to get a feel of the opponent and if he gets hit, it tends to be early. For example, Judah unofficially dropped him in the second round. And yes, Corley did catch him, but Mayweather just covered up and was fine a few seconds later. Against Mosley he hung on for life, and also got clipped and hurt later in the round as well. Of course he's going to get and yes its nothing new to be hit, but what I'm trying to say is that the severity of the 'hurt' caused is the factor here. He was hurt more than he's ever been, and was a punch away from going down hard. That hasn't happened before.

    Yes, going to Don King could be a sign of wanting to make the fight happen. But I can't see the Arum/DLH issue being a major problem when Mayweather leaving Arum is a more recent hurdle. Mayweather could simply be rubbing up to King to show his GBP paymasters he has other options. Good way of taking a bigger slice of future pies.
     
  9. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    What I'm suggesting is that getting rocked by Mosley may have convinced him he doesn't want to fight Manny.
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    So Mayweather gets stunned by Mosley, comes at Mosley THAT VERY SAME ROUND, and continues to come after him for the next 10 rounds and beat the hell out of Mosely, and then afterwards decides he doesn't want to be hit anymore? That doesn't make sense. If it were a close fight, and Mayweather took a lot of punishment, maybe Mayweather would be gun shy. But that didn't happen.
     
  11. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    No, that's not what I'm saying. Mayweather is at the tail end of his career. He's 33. And he just got hurt like he hasn't been hurt before, against an opponent who was too old and too inactive to take advantage of it. So when Floyd is looking at how he's going to play out the final stage of his career, he might be thinking twice about taking such a risky fight when maybe he's slowing.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    What makes you think he's at the tail end of his career at 33, when he's barely taken any punishment in his career? It's amazing all these wild theories people have with Mayweather as well as all these excuses they have for his opponent.

    None of you guys stop to think, "You know, maybe Mosley wasn't able to stop Mayweather after he hurt him because Mayweather is extremely smart in the ring and is an excellent defender. Maybe the fact that Mayweather held on right away like your tought to do and then covered up like your tought to do is why he was able to overcome Mosley's attack." The fact that Mayweather has been hurt before and was always able to wheather the storm, even against younger, active fighters, supports this theory.

    Instead, people automatically assume that Mosley would've blasted the most gifted defensive fighter in the sport out of there in 2 rounds had he just been younger and more active. This of couse leads to more off the wall theories about Mayweather being almost done at 33 and only looking to fight non risky fights for the rest of his career. It's of course an absurd theory. However, many will not stop and think to themselves just how absurd and nonsensical it really is.
     
  13. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Good point. I'll have to warn you that they hate and ignore logic on this forum.
     
  14. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    You done made me stand up. No one ever actually knows enough about boxing tactics to describe what happened. They just want to criticize the fighters all day.
     
  15. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Giving credit when credit is due is never an easy task for people... especially when it comes to Mayweather. Good post. Mosley caught him hard, but like you said his defense/intelligence is what got him through the round. Other fighters would have tried to slug it out after hurt and probably been stopped.