NAOYA SHOULD FIGHT GERVONTA DAVIS.. NO CATCH WEIGHT NEEDED

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  1. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    SEEN it as per Virgil Hunter.
    He said Inoue should jump up and dare to be great. What a dick!
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Has any fighter ever jumped 3 divisions and gone to win a title? I can't think of any and even jumping two divisions is very rare. Any talk of Inoue going up to lightweight is ridiculous until he's at least established at 126 and even that would be a huge jump going from featherweight to lightweight especially as it would already be at the upper limit of what is possible.

    It's one thing if he started his career at 122 then moved to 126 and then jumped to 135 but 122 is already his 4th weight division. Not even Pac when he was at 122 thought about skipping 126 and 130 and not taking the Barrera fight but going right for Mayweather in 2003 when Floyd was lightweight champion. It's a totally outrageous idea and Inoue shouldn't even be thinking about Davis as a possible opponent.
     
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  3. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    If Inoue wants to be great, sure he can move up and fight anyone. I just chuckle at the idea propose by Hunter that he should move up and fight Tank. Nobody is asking for that fight except Tank and apparently Virgil.
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hunter also using the Rigo/Loma example is also ridiculous. Rigo didn't jump 3 divisions going from 122 to 135 he jumped 2 divisions and went from 122 to 130. Calling 13lbs just a few lbs too is also disingenous, 13lbs is a massive jump up in weight. His rationale for his point of view is asinine, it would be like asking Tank to jump up 3 divisions to face Crawford, Tzsyu or Fundora. Tank won't even fight the best in his own division can you imagine him going up 19lbs to fight the 1ft taller Fundora, lol.
     
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  5. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    Even Tank has come out and said it’s not happening. I think he realises the fight is stupid but with how much money they’d make I can sort of understand why Tank would want it since he’s hardly even a fighter and more of an entertainer
     
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  6. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe he can move up and fight Loma at 126, if he can make that weight.

    It will be a lot more interesting, than Tank fight for me
     
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  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah. You can tell he coached Andre Ward alright.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Why isn't he calling for Twink to move up to 147, 154 or 160 to face one of the best guys at those weights?

    Inoue is campaigning in his 4th weight class but Hunter wants Inoue to move up to his 7th to fight Twink?

    When Twink moved up to his third division, or rather made a brief appearance up there so he could cherrypick the weakest champ at the weight, and it was the WBA regular champ Barrios at that not the legit champ Josh Taylor who according to Leonard Ellerbe ''brought nothing to the table'' other than all four belts and a top 5 P4P ranking that is

    And Twink slapped a rehydration clause on Barrios too

    And then what did Twink do after grabbing the belt?

    Did he hang around up there and go right for the elite of the division and try to become undisputed (which is exactly what Inoue has done in his 4th and 5th division)?

    Or did he drop the belt like it was molten lead and duck back down to 130/135?

    Take a guess

    “I don’t think Gervonta [Davis] should go below 135,” Hunter told Fighthype. “I’m sure Inoue walks around at ’40, ’45 – 145. [Inoue would] have to come up just like everybody else. Where is the value of [Davis] coming to a catchweight to fight you? You’re big in Japan, and I’m big in the States. So there should not be any weight concession. ‘If you want to fight, come and fight me.’”

    Hmm.. Twink fought Ryan at a catchweight of 136 despite having won a belt at 140 and slapped a rehydration clause on him too.

    Twink weighs a whole weight class more than Loma with a 2'' longer reach than him but even though Inoue is almost as big as Loma with a 2'' longer reach best believe Loma wouldn't receive an ounce of credit from Hunter and those calling for Inoue to face Twink and so many others if he beat Inoue even if he dropped down to 126 to face him. But Inoue needs to move up to his 7th weight class to fight Twink who won't even move up 2 and stay there or fight the elite in any of the ones he's fought in?

    I'm not even trying to poop on Twink who respects Inoue and doesn't see the fight as being realistic himself and he isn't calling Inoue out either.
     
  9. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Simple.

    Davis doesn't want to fight the best guys his own size.
    He doesn't really care about proving he's great at the weights he fights at - he's all about posturing without doing the work - so why would he go up the divisions to take bigger challenges/risks than ones at his own weight that he's already not taking?

    That's where Inoue is different - he lets his performances and resume do the talking.

    When you look at it that way, surely it's pretty ****ing obvious why the guy who's proving to be fearless and great is the one being mooted to go up the weights - even if it's a ridiculous prospect to jump so far.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Hunter citing Rigo moving up to fight Loma.

    Firstly, Rigo is the one who not only called Loma out but both he and his fanbase literally begged Loma to fight him and waged a protracted campaign on social media goading him to take the fight, accusing him of running scared and ducking him, so Rigo could expose him and they were so confident he was going to do so.

    Rigo was offered the fight at 126 but he kept screwing Loma around but they were still adamant he was going to school Loma and knock him out at 130. However, after Loma literally toyed with him like he was a club fighter without even having to move out of second gear all we heard from them were excuses about size and how Loma ain't beat no one. Loma even said that e didn't consider it a great win because Rigo was too small and this was after tons of disrespect and goading from Rigo and his fans. How many times have you seen a bigger fighter say that after beating a smaller one?

    Not a peep out of any of them about size when Loma fought an 11lbs heavier Salido or when he moved up to 135 to face opponents who routinely hold the kind of weight advantage he held over Rigo, or more or way more of a weight advantage, only difference is they also held big/huge reach advantage over Loma too whereas Rigo has a 2'' longer reach than Loma.

    Loma fights a 20lb heavier, six inch longer reach, with a 36 hour weigh in, in Haney's backyard, with a home ref and three home judges but not so much as a peep about weight or size advantages from any of them
     
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  11. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Can Tank make 130, or 126? Inoue at 126, with a few fights under his belt would be interesting with Tank or Loma. Otherwise 130 is a bit too far.
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    They're insisting Inoue play by a set of rules against someone who won't and hasn't ever played the same game as him, let alone by the same rules, and who they don't expect to play the same game either :facepalm:
     
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  13. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I don't see him making 126. 130 would be a tough ask, and I don't think he cares enough to want to boil down to 130 even if he has 36+ hours to rehydrate.

    If their weights were reversed, Tank would be insisting on 126 with a rehydration clause :lol:

    Inoue and Loma could be interesting, though - Loma doesn't cut hard and he's not clearly too big at the weight...
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Twink lost one of his world titles at 130 on the scales and very nearly lost another after only managing to make the weight at the third attempt. He's had to strip naked a bunch of times to make weight, at least 3 IIRC. He missed weight by a whole pound the first time of asking for his 135 debut.
     
  15. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I have a feeling he doesn’t understand lower weight class lol. Inoue and Tank started 6 weight class apart.
     
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