Napoles, Gavilan and Leonard

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  1. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where do you rate these three at 147 and based on what? Thank you.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Gavilan is tough for me because of several fights I've read he had robbed from him, yet I've never been able to see them and draw my own conclusions.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Leonard - best on film, best resume
    Galivan - arguably beat a prime Robinson
    Napoles - he doesnt look as great skill wise and his WW resume isnt as strong, although remember he was at the LW limit till about 28
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tier 3 - Napoles, Leonard, Walker
    Tier 5 - Kid Gavilan, Louis Rodriguez
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Armando Muniz who fought both said Napoloes was better than Leonard, when asked are you sure he said oh yes definitely! The Video is on you tube under "Muniz talks on Pac,cotto,Arreola,Klitchko.
    However my ATG list looks like this
    Leonard'
    Napoloes - Gavilan i have a hard time seperating these 2.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    I'd put Jose Napoles at the top of those three.
     
  7. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Robinson
    2. Walker
    3. Leonard
    4. Hearns
    5. Gavilan
    6. Napoles
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  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Gavilan
    2. Leonard
    3. Napoles
     
  9. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I'd put Leonard at the top based on his all around abilities, combined with the fact that he proved himself against 4 of the best fighters of all time and the best of the era, 3 of them at Welterweight. Next in line would be Napoles based on his skill-set and dominance at the weight despite not even being natural there. Obviously Gavilan would come next, though there's really not much between any of these 3. Hardly a disparity in class or anything.
     
  10. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's just about who you like the most. You could have these gusy in any order and I wouldn't argue about it. Throw in Griffith too... All of them are elite fighters.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Gavilan at 2 (as impressive on film as any fighter I've seen)

    Leonard at 3-Has thosewins over Duran, Benitez and Hearns.

    Napoles at 4: Win over Griffith-Damn impressive. Haven't watched the 2nd Cokes fight yet but Napoles is punch perfect in the first, his head movement/foot movement absolutely mind blowing, precise and calculated, the shots flowing naturally. His resume isn't mind blowing at 147, but considering why he went to the division in the first place and his consistency (bar cuts) I rank Napoles very high at the weight.

    :good
     
  12. Flea Man

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    :huh
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Gavilan and Leonard may have had more aesthetic styles (Gavilan was one of the first old-school champions to become a TV favourite and trigger the trend towards the "TV fighters" of the mid-late 50s. And Leonard of course was TV gold) ........... but I think Napoles was the greater fighter.
     
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Napoles is "aesthetic" as you get, I feel Unforgiven.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    I can only assume he's only seen the Monzon fight