Naseem Hamed versus today's featherweights?

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone who loses is a fraud on this site....

    F*cking casual idiots.
     
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  2. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Navarette is my favorite feather right now. He has power. Hamed was dropped by Kevin Kelly ffs. Manny Navarette puts one or two on his glass chin. Night, night, Keith Thurma lisp voice.

    All Manny Naverette has to do is wait for Naz to get wild and reckless and BOOM land one on that glass chin. I reckon it's a massive possibility. He was just lucky Barrera doesn't have that 1 hitter quitter.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Navarrete's distinct lack of defence and blazing speed means he'd be in for a very painful night facing Naz.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Maybe but Hamed`s power would be a huge threat to GRJ who isn`t the best defensively.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hamed wasn`t hurt by Kelly, his legs were not wobbly, he just got caught off balance and had the power to take Nav out with one shot.
     
  6. TFP

    TFP Active Member Full Member

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    Naz was a little overrated at times, sure. But he was very good indeed. Great speed, balance, power.

    In terms of weight divisions, his conditioning was never all that spectacular, his body fat far higher than a modern fighter such as [e.g.] Inoue, I doubt he was ever dehydrating all that aggressively for weigh-ins, I suppose I view him as a natural bantam/super bantam/featherweight absolute tops.
     
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  7. DON1

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    A bit over the top. Barrera is an ATG. Hamed still proved himself against some class opposition. Marco was just a class above the lot of them.
     
  8. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Hamed would clean out the current division. He just ran into an exceptional fighter in Barrera. People forget the top opposition he faced before Barrera. Guys like Tom Boom Boom Johnson would more than likely for a champion amongst the current lot.
     
  9. To Hull And Back

    To Hull And Back New Member banned Full Member

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    Imagine if the clown hadn't retired early like a ***** the second he stepped up to the best

    Manny Pacquaio
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Erik Morales
    Floyd Mayweather

    He would have took bad beatings by all of them
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Pacquiao was basically an unknown when Hamed retired, and Mayweather never fought at the same weight as Hamed. Marquez didn't do anything of note at featherweight until his fought Norwood, in 99. He lost, and didn't do anything else until 2003, after Naz had retired. Morales only won a featherweight title once his fight with Barrera was signed.

    He didn't duck any of them, aside from arguably Morales. You must have really hated him :lol:
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I wouldn`t say he wasn`t a natural feather because he punched harder than any featherweight in the world at that time,he blew Billy Hardy away in the firs round of their featherweight title bout yet at bantam Hardy went the distance with Orlando Canizales and it then took Canizales 8 rounds to stop Hardy in their rematch for Canizales world title belt at bantamweight so obviously Hamed hit far harder than Canizales and would have destroyed him at feather due to his power, he might have lacked a bit of height at feather since he struggled with taller fighters like Alicea and Medina, however he had a reach advantage over most of his other Featherweight opposition except Kelly and again he struggled in that bout too, it`s clear super feather would have been a bridge too far but he was more than strong enough at feather.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    You`re right except for Floyd as he ws actually asked about fighting Hamed after one of his super fatyher bout however Merchant who asked the question laughed at the idea as he knew Hamed wouldn`t have stood a chance against Floyd at all.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    You`re wrong and right about Manny, in the way that Mnny was unknown when Hamed fought Barrera but then Manny out-classed Barrera and Marco toyed with Hamed, which anounced Manny to the boxing public as a force to be reckoned and clearly way out of Hamed`s league who was largely forgotten by the time Manny beat Barrera.
     
  14. KenBoon

    KenBoon The Marquess of Queensbury's proof reader Full Member

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    I can literally see the venom in the reply, did he beat one of your local boys or something? He was box office and whether you liked him or hated him, he had the arrogance and natural ability that made people want to watch him.
     
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  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's popular to bash Hamed these days, people saying he was never that good, but people who really believe that probably don't understand how far he fell off from his peak by the time he faced Barrera, hell he wasn't even at his best when he fought McCollough 2 years prior to Barrera.

    If you really study Hamed's style early on he was a very dangerous and unpredictable counter puncher. His style was to make you miss and then hit you with a big counter often from unexpected angles.

    But by the time he was fighting McCollough he was a totally different fighter. Instead of making opponents miss and then countering he was just launching himself from range and trying to take opponents out. He no longer would put the work in to create openings and create traps to counter his opponents, he just relied on his speed and power and tried to bomb guys out by beating them to the punch.

    Unsurprisingly after splitting with Ingle he went from a 17 fight KO streak to suddenly being taken the distance twice in 4 fights. And it's not like his opposition got tougher, he simply got worse.

    I think he'd beat any of the current featherweight champions as his peak. But I don't think he would of ever beat Barrera even at his best, Barrera was simply a better fighter though I think peak Hamed would of given Barrera a more competitive fight. I would of given Hamed at his peak a better chance of beating Morales due to Morales tendency to trade too much. Don't think he'd have ever beaten Marquez, smartest thing Hamed's team did was low ball Marquez when they offered him the fight. Marquez really should of accepted that fight regardless, if he'd been the first to beat Hamed instead of Barrera his career path might of been quite different.
     
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