Naseem Hamed vs Amir Khan what would happen?

Hamed provided some decent entertainment at domestic level but failed miserably at elite world level whilst having a costly predilection for fast motors outside of the ring. Khan seems to be on a similar path so it would probably be quite close, although Khan's glass chin might be the difference

 

There is just no way Khan could handle Naz unless he has a chin transplant.

 

I've read some of this guys' posts and most of them I find OK.

But I disagree with this one and think his comments are ridiculous.

"failed miserably at elite world level"

I call guys like you Mr "Impossible To Please"

Hamed was a exceptional top ten pound for pound fighter

Steve Robinson - WBO Champ - W TKO 8
Manuel Medina - Mutliple IBF Champ - W RET 11
Tom Johnson- IBF Champ - W KO 8
Kevin Kelly - former WBC Champ - W KO 4
Wayne McCollugh - WBC Super Bantam Champ - W UNA 12
Wifredo Vasquez - WBA Champ - W TKO 7
Cesar Soto - WBC Champ - W UNA 12
Vuynai Bungu - IBF Super Bantam - W KO 4

thats a record there of some of the world champions Naz beat

this is world class elite level

his record against these World Champion Calbiure fighters

8-0-0 (6 KO's)

very successful

he lost one fight - by a fair and clear decsion - but in a competitive fight - to the best Super Bantam / Featherweight of his generation in future HOF fighter Marco Antonio Barrera.

This is a very successful career - Hamed was true World Class.

I remeber some MORON said at the time in the aftermath of Naz losing to Barrera - it was just a case of a European level fighter fighting World Class for the first time and getting exposed.

What a load of bull**** - Naz proved he was the best in Europe in just something like his 12th pro fight when he took the European Bantamweight title.

If you want to see what Barrera does to British / European level fighters watch his fights with Richie Wenton (W TKO 3) and some other British guy (can't remeber his name) who he blasted away on British shores (W KO 1).

And if you want to see what a prime Naz does to European Champion level fighters watch his fight with Billy Hardy - (W KO 1) - a public massacare.


Only true world class fighters can be competitive with Barrera and Naz was for every one of them 12 rounds even if he was coming worse off.

Naz was more than just a world class fighter - he was one of thee "elite" pound for pound fighters

One of the reasons why Barrera is held in such high regard is that he was the first and only man to beat Naseem Hamed in a professional fight

 

I hated Naz but the Prince would knock seven bells of the proverbial out of Khan at this stage

 

Flint, I disagree with this, I posted the following a while back so I've just pasted it into this thread (apologies but I really cant be arsed writing it up again);

 

naz would KO khan inside 3 rounds, hamed was just a superior boxer and tooooooooo much one punch power on khan and khan wouldn't get up again.

put it this way... Naz was a better fighter (faught beter fighters) with the amount of fights khan has in his career right now at Pro level

 

But I believe he proved himself World Class against all them other fighters - who were World Class

Barrera was the "elite"

but that does not mean fighters like Cesar Soto and Vuyani bungu are not world class

Hamed was easily World Class

if any other fighter had a win over a top ten fighter they would be regarded as World Class

why change the standards for Hamed

he might be disliked by some

but he cleaned up the featherweight division

badly flawed

guilty of looking for the one power punch to get him out of jail too often

but easily world class

and when he did choose to box he was exceprtional - Jose Badillo W TKO 7 - comes to mind - he made his opponnet look a fool as he patiently broke him down behind a heavy southpaw jab.

Barrera and Morales and Hamed are the best featherweights of their generation.

Disppointing he never fought Morales.

Chi was one tough ******* but they were never on a collsion course.

Tapia would have been too small for Hamed and the best he could have hoped for is lasting the distance.

Paulie Ayala would have done well to make it through the 1st round against Hamed - I mean it.

Forget the fact he went 12 rounds with Morales.

Hamed was a more exceptional talent than Morales and Barrera in terms of explosive performances.

I think he would have blown Paulie Ayala away

 

edited your quote just so I can reply to the above...

Maybe we are using the terms differently then, world class to me means elite. Barrera, Morales were world class/elite, Hamed was not.

I agree that Naz had more natural talent than either of the above and that is probably why I am more critical of him than others, because he promised so much and delivered relatively little.

The fact that you think Ayala would have been blown away is evidence that he did not take on top opposition. I didnt say that he couldnt beat Ayala, Tapia or Chi but we will never know because the only fighter he fought of a good pedigree was Barrera and he was schooled.

Sorry Flint, we'll have to agree to differ on Naz

 

Naz would, I'm afraid, brain Khan in about four or five rounds. If he got back to a fighting weight instead of the fat ******* he is at present I can see the fight lasting no more than a minute or two. Horrific power.

 

Khan would avoid the fight.

 

Naz would be so slippery and slick in the ring that Khan would think he was surrounded.

 

Naz KO2 and only because he tended to dick about a bit in rd 1.

 

I'm no particular fan of Hamed, but the following is just flat out wrong in more ways than I can list (I will have a go anyway).

Best in the division such as who? Stev Robinson was ranked #3 in the division at the time they fought, Boom Boom John #2 (second only to Hamed himself), Kelley, Vazquez and Soto all top five.

If being ranked the second or third best fighter in the world at your weight by most independent ratings does not constitute being "world class" then who exactly is? I would suggest the bar is being set a fraction too high here.

Gatti never made the featherweight limit his whole career. He won his first title around the same time Hamed did at super feather and was fighting at welterweight by 2000. Tapia and Ayala were both bantamweights, neither of whom fought at 126 until their rematch in late 2000.

Eduardo Alvarez - who? Injin Chi was a good fighter, but was basically unknown and unranked until his bout with Morales around the same time as Hamed-Barrera. The point is, none of these guys were top 10 ranked featherweights at any point during Hamed's reign.

Agree with a lot of this, however, if 25 years old is "aging" then Hamed must have been geriatric by the time he lost to Barrera. Medina went on to capture three more world titles.

I am not sure quite what to say about this except that I don't see how all these fights were harder work than they should have been or lacklustre. Hamed won all of them clearly. It is not unthinkable that the #1 in the world at his weight might have a difficult fight against guys ranked #2 - #5 at the time.

Agreed, this showed what an arrogant egotistical pr*ck he had become by this point.

I would say the majority of observers scored Barrera the winner in that very close fight. And you just know that had Hamed chosen Morales instead, the same critics would have been bitching that he only took the fight because Morals was "exposed" by Barrera and was avoiding the real winner of that fight.

As per point above, if being ranked #1 at your weight and top 10 p4p for 4-5 years isn't "world class" then who exactly is?

Summary, Hamed might have been an egotistical ***** who wasn't half of what he though he was, and may have had a lot of haters. But the guy could fight! I think a lot of people (not necessarily the poster here) simply allow their view of him personally to colour their view of him as a fighter.

Anyway back to the original post, Hamed by murder, probably inside 3 rounds.

 

I agree with the above post - exactly the point I was trying to make

Why raise the standards for Hamed

any fighter that can be competitive against the top 10 or even 20 fighters in the world is world class

World Class - to my understanding means - being ranked up there and competitive with the best fighters at your weight

in other words - the top 10 to 15 to 20 fighters at your weight class

If you lose to the number 1 at your weight on points and slip down to number 2 or 3 or 4 at your weight it is laughable to say you are suddenly not world class

like TKO said - if this is the standard then practically no-one is World Class

 

without doubt Naz KO's Khan in 5.
but I have to say I'm surprised that Khan is taking such criticism.
His chin is weak and his in-fighting is poor but he's got a great deal of potential and time on his side.
It'll be interesting if this new Cuban trainer can iron out the flaws and if Warren can get the fights to help him to progress to a level where he can mix it with the likes of the prince.