Naseem Hamed vs Barrera Documentary Vid ("Little Prince - Big Fight")

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  1. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    Despicable is a bit much. He brought lots of fans into boxing that wouldn't have bothered otherwise. I'm pretty sure most people with £30m in the bank at the age of 27 would easily consider retiring, regardless of whatever profession they were in. His profession just happened to be boxing and he'd clearly got pissed off with the training and being seperated from his family for months at a time.
     
  2. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He didn't have it anymore after the Kelly fight. It seemed like his passion for boxing was dying with every fight afterwards.

    It was better for him to retire with most of his faculties rather than end up like RJJ, which would have happened if he kept going. Ultimately, his fans aren't going to get brain damaged.
     
  3. globenerd

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    I keep hearing this reasoning that Hamed brought people to boxing. I, however, don't know anyone (not a single person) who wasn't a boxing fan, that became one because of Hamed, or even show any interest in it because of him.
    I think that's a toss about phrase his fans use when they can no longer argue that he ever really proved himself to be that great.
    He rose to the level of fame that he did because he's from England, and English fight fans are so desperate for another great champion, that they'll jump on for anyone, regardless of how utterly deplorable and insufferably arrogant they may be.
    In fact, it seems the more pissy the better for English fans.
    They had a real ATG in Lennox Lewis, who didn't act like a complete wanker, and he doesn't seem to have near the fan support that the loudmouthed and unproven jackmonkeys like Hamed and Haye have.

    NOTE: I realize I have no idea whether or not you're even English, but that was a general rant not necessarily or wholly directed at you.
     
  4. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'm not English but I like fighters with a bit of flair and passion. Naz was a fighter and an entertainer. He had a real talent for fighting and power that was undeniable. He also had a personality that polarizes people so whether you liked him or not, you were going to watch him fight or get a haircut. Boxing needs fighters like him.
     
  5. IlPadrino

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    As the documentary pointed out, Hamed was the highest earning British sportsman the year before he fought MAB, he was HUGE (he earned £7.5m, Lewis earned £6m) . How many Featherweights ever had anywhere near £30m in career earnings, including those that boxed into their 30s? If you want an indication as to what made him so popular (apart from the boasting and cockiness), he had an 88% KO rate. Sure, he fought his fair share of bums, but there was always a good chance of a brutal KO if you watched his fights, and there a were a fair number that watched hoping to see HIM get knocked out.
     
  6. _Duran_

    _Duran_ Ugly Mofocker Full Member

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    Bull****.

    Nas is overrated as ****.
     
  7. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My pleasure to bump this thread again.What's 100% predictable is that hamed's fans WILL make excuses for him.That's a fact that even his fans can't dispute due to the fact that they're so busy making excuses for him.:yepProblem with you is that you just can't accept facts.:hi:
     
  8. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    When he was training hard, it took top-pedigree operators with untelegrahed long right hands to even land flush on him a few times (T.Johnson, K.Kelley).

    His performances against Belcastro, Robinson and Bungu were three of the most impressive flawless performances I've seen. Completely out-jabbed them, kept them off-balance and flowed fast flurries.

    The kid could counter from almost every angle imaginable when he was still a teenager, at breakneck speed.
     
  9. IlPadrino

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    You're a prize idiot, a proper nob as we Brits would say. EVERY fan has an 'excuse' for their fighter losing. Sometimes the excuse is that they're not good enough, as I've already said of Hamed about FIFTY ****ING TIMES! The difference is alot of us aren't internet warriors that want to invade threads just to call everyone bullshitters without offering any constructive criticism at all. Hamed was a gifted fighter that lost his hunger. He would have lost anyway because he never bothered with the fundamentals, and his power and reflexes covered up his complete disregard for defence, but MAB was just too disciplined and ring-smart to get sucked in by Hamed's antics. What are these 'facts' you speak of? That MAB was better? That Hamed was never as good as the hype suggested? Plenty of us already accepted those facts, but it doesn't take away from Hamed's achievements nor his entertainment value. You've offered nothing to this thread except typical youtube comment crap. All the smilies in the world don't cover up that you know nothing about Hamed at all and you just want to feel superior by displaying your apparently amazing knowledge of boxing. It's a 'fact' that while MAB was training like the pro he is, Hamed was busy getting his hair cut and generally spending his time fannying about and this documentary is hard evidence of it.

    Hamed was also the highest-earning sportsmen in the UK, despite Lewis being a HW champion. Get this into your thick head, he was a ****ing FEATHERWEIGHT that was earning HEAVYWEIGHT wages becuse he knocked people out most of the time. Was he better than MAB? Hell no, but was he more entertaining both in and out of ring? Hell yes.
     
  10. madballster

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    Nas is a great example how confidence means jack**** in the ring. You can believe whatever you want it doesn't make a difference.

    Nas crumbled like a sand castle hit by a wave on the beach when he stepped in the ring with the first world-class opponent in his career.
     
  11. Clinton

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    :lol:You're a very defensive,pathetic poster.You're so sensitive about this thread that it is laughable.The funniest part is,unlike practically every other hamed fan on these boards,at least you admit that MAB was the better man,because PRACTICALLY EVERY OTHER hamed fan on these boards claims that if hamed had trained or if it had been an earlier version of hamed or if he had fought his fight etc. and ad nauseum,he would have beaten MAB,which is the fact that I spoke of and that you refer to.You are absolutely one of the only hamed fans on these boards that admits that MAB was better period.Congratulations for being honest:lol:.Without ever having met me,you believe I'm trying to "feel superior" by making these posts.Obviously YOUR comprehension skills are shite.My point was to emphasize how every hamed thread on these boards(and they are frequent considering how long he's been retired)is full of hamed excuses about the MAB fight even though EVERYONE KNOWS that for a long time,hamed was lazy and didn't even like to do roadwork.Wow.I do know SOMETHING about hamed unlike what you wrote:lol:.And one more thing.Hamed is very easy to dislike and criticize because he was a classless ***** when he was on the go.If you or any other hamed fan has a problem with the dislike pointed in his direction,tough ****.You've only hamed himself to blame as he earned it.
     
  12. Addie

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    So...one of Hamed's greatest ever performances came 13 months prior to fighting MAB? We're expected to believe he faded sometime during that amount of time? Here is footage of Hamed, mere months before fighting MAB, and he's quick to put us all straight about his training and focus.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLPom1fFN24[/ame]


    So now we're expected to believe that whilst Hamed is perfectly capable of finding the motivation to train properly for a beast like Augie Sanchez, he's unable to when he's in the biggest fight of his career against a multi-time World Champion?

    Belcastro, Bungu, and Robinson all have one thing in common. None of them were on the same level as MAB.
     
  13. Tackleberry

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    Thanks for posting man. Enjoyable video, especially the end:yep


    But seriosly, thanks!
     
  14. Addie

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    When Hamed struggled to beat that Spanish fighter no one had ever of then it was officially confirmed that MAB had taken his career apart.

    MAB is on a different level to Hamed.
     
  15. Arran

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    MAB had only beat Hamed by 4 rounds on the judges scorecards, it was hardly a career destroying fight was it