***Naseem Hamed vs Guillermo Rigondeaux***

Is froch the best u moron, Didn't Ward the most skilled in the division win? didn't groves dominate,

when u have really good boxing skills like Ward or rigo or a top cuban fighter u won't be beaten by guys like froch, guys who your told are great boxers arn't always

 

Look at guys who they tell u are skilled boxers like malignaggi etc or current khan whose lost alot of his skills, they are extremely flawed and not the most talented but thses boxers can be beat not the mayweather ward or top cuban fighters skill! don't alwasy beleive what your told becasue alot of the time it's rubbish

 

ATG matchup :bbb

Both guys 5'3" natural bantam Southpaws

Hamed: Can take advantage of Rigo Olympic mindset, score enough knockdowns to win the fight.

Rigo: Can fight the perfect fight for 12rds decisioning Hamed

Rigo short range will allow this fight to be very close and more exciting than Rigo wants :yep

I expect Rigo to win by Decision or Hamed by multiple KD dec, I can't see Hamed KTFO Rigo, because Rigo will not allow Hamed to land more than once and he rarely leaves himself open for the typical counterpunches

The poll odds are about right :bbb

 

how is this a Faking question? ... you clearly DKSAB.. :roll:

 

Wrong again! Skills and talent are two separate things. Ever heard of genetics? Ever had a kid in your school who was simply faster than everyone else? Did he practice every day? No. Some people ARE just born with talent. Thats how most successful people have gotten to where they are. The difference being that talented people who work hard become skilled. Nobody is born skilled. Skilled is working upon talent. So i shouldn't listen to the lies im told but i should listen to you? You make a weak, **** poor case. "Dont listen to others but listen to me". The better boxer most of the time does come out on top thats why when then don't its called an UPSET. An upset is when the 'better boxer' is supposed to win and doesn't. And when he doesn't we have people like you who come up with excuses as to why he didn't.

You said "was Tyson the best boxer? no he was beaten by Holyfield" How can you justify his loss to Douglas with his loss to Holyfield 6 years later?! Yes Tyson was the best boxer... of the two. Between Tyson and Douglas, i'd still pick tyson all day because he was the better of the two. "But tyson had an off night" Excuse. Whether he had an off night of not Tyson is still the better boxer and he lost. Ok Lomachenko rushed his career, i agree. But he is still the better boxer between himself and Salido. But he rushed his career (there's your excuse) I get that the better boxer MOST OF THE TIME comes out on top, but not EVERY TIME! If the better boxer wins every time, then Ali, Tyson, Holmes and Lewis would be undefeated. But it doesn't work like that my friend, so i guess you should wave your white flag, admit defeat and take it like a man. But judging by your opinion im sure you will come up with an excuse

 

atsch

If Rigo will lose its a dec not a KO, he can be dropped but why do you assume he can be KOed easily. Hamed KOs happened vs guys who were scared or went into war mode...Rigo is neither of the two if he is hurt, he will turn into strict defense till he can catch Hamed with counters

It will not be like the MAB fight..because both are the same frame and it will be Rigo skills vs Hamed power...I feel both have the same power...Rigo just feeling power punches should be used wisely without making any mistakes...he uses precise power to to turn the fight into a boxing class...Agbeko can explain this to us :yep

 

YDKSAB I've already explained these things to you before, it doesn't matter if your genetically better in boxing or faster,it's not that type of a sport, why is the talent level so high in cuba year after year they produce the best boxers in the world, why because they are taught the best skills and technique you have alot to learn, I guess that's why i don't post often becasue I used to believe all the BS like u guys until I learned it's not true at all, and your trying to tell me that lewis ali holmes weren't the best of their time shows how ignorant u are, :hi:

What does it matter that you can run faster in boxing or you have can lift alot of weight, it's means nothing in this sport where skills matter, u could have usain bolt in boxing with no skills and he would never win!

 

Jesus Christ! you are either Dumb or just spinning conversations to suit what you are talking about. You haven't explained anything!!! So you're saying that no boxer ever was genetically gifted? If so, your opinions are completely ruled out through ignorant factless thoughts. Cubans are talented, they work upon their talent. Not every Cuban who has ever lived is a great boxer. Those who have worked and gained skills have succeeded. With multiple belts now in every weight class you would think by your rule of thumb that there would be at least a Cuban champion in every class... guess what there isnt... not even close. At what point did i say they weren't the best of their time? Please show where i said that. I said by your logic (which is something you probably dont understand) that the better boxer always wins is untrue and completely disingenuous. Don't change your stance because you're weak. You said the better boxer always wins and you're wrong. Deal with it hi:

 

Honestly, fucck proving your intelligence against eachother on this forum, just chill.

Rigondeaux beats my favourite fighter of all time, Hamed. Just a terrible style for Hamed to handle, Rigondeaux will catch him al the time and point score and stay safe. It really isn't that dangerous for Rigondeaux as you make out because Rigo likes to keep distance.

His chin isn't as bad as some posters would have you believe, either.

 

YDKSAB do you think there would be a cuban champ in every weight, I'd put every thing I own on it, in the ams forget robberies at least 80% of their squad are either the world or Olympic champ or in the top 3 best, what genetic gifts are you talking about, how do genes matter in boxing, all u need is decent athleticism which alot of guys have, u dont need to be the fastest runner ever or the strongest guy it means absolutely nothing in boxing! YDKSAB can tell u'v never boxed, What genes are you talking about what do genes matter in a skill sport, if ur the fastest runner it means nothing in boxing u cant run in a ring,

isn't gamboa the best, Rigo is the best Lara etc but are heavily avoided in a bussiness rather than a sport where when they fight eveyone they are the best, YDKSAB atschu have guys like solis who have the skills but no work rate or fitness and loose but even guys like iglesias right now would school Bradley marquez and pacquiao in WSB

and yes throughout history the better boxer comes out on top ali, mayweather, name me one dominant brawler who was the very best?
dominant champions are always skilled boxer u dumb ****! learn some lessons here, the world rewards skills in everything in life u ignorant little troll who has never laced them up GTFO here ***git
"the boxer always wins" Mayweather JR

 

Hahaha great way to avoid the real question. Genetics play a part you idiot! People are athletic because of their genetics and their training. So cubans dont get the results because of corrupt judging hahahaha :rofl More excuses.
dominant brawler? Ok how about Froch, Fullmer, JCC, Dempsey, Duran was arguably a brawler who beat the pure boxer in Ray Leonard, Frazier, Marciano, Provodnikov will be great as soon as he steps up. Now before you say im comparing them to Ali, Mayweather etc Im not. Im naming you brawlers who have beaten some of the best and are arguably at one point or another the best at one particular time. Im sure you will discredit all of these boxers or use your normal tactic of "look over there". hahaha :deal See ya troll. YDKSAB

*And yeah, i have boxed. Was undefeated and fought great competition so i do know more about boxing than someone who points and criticizes without lacing them up

 

Forum troll GTFO here u ***git" how come cuba is such as small country and has produced the best boxing team for decades year after year and despite robberies have the best fighters currently and the most Olympic titles, genetics play a tiny tiny roll if any in boxing, it's the skills ur taught like footwork and punch technique that matter, genes like being a fast runner or being musclcular mean nothing this is a fact you have never boxed or if u have at a very little level I'm Ross Hickey I've boxed for Ireland look me up I could teach u a few things! and knock u out in a round! wasn't froch schooled by WArd the most skilled boxer, wasn't Jcc outboxed by whitaker dempsey and marciano fought in an era where there was very limited and non skillfull fighters, duran not really a bralwer but got outboxed by leonard and koed, none of those guys were dominat champs and duran and jcc had decent skills but lost when they fought better boxers!

im done schooling ur ***git ass! my last reply and lesson for u!:hi: YDKSAB gaylawd im not gonna respond back to a troll no more!

 

**** off you *****, when did I say Froch was the best, my point was hard work can compensate for talent

Really really our a wanker

 

Hahaha you couldnt be more contradictory. First of all genetics play no part now they play a tiny part. Open your eyes fella. You clearly dont have good genetics otherwise you woulda made it. I boxed at a better level than you! I didnt lose to Romal Amanow. Bye bye troll. :hi:

 

people are absolutely clueless on here. most have never seen naseems early fights. most have only seen him fight kelley and barrera. watch his early fights and tell me with a straight face rigo beats hamed