Naseem hammed should have been great

Yes.

 

Naz never displayed a formidable jab in any of his pre-Barrera fights. His jab was pawing and easy to counter, due to his pathetic defence and tendency to overreach. You're glorifying him unjustifiably.

 

I think what we can all take from this thread is that PowerPuncher loves Naz irrationally, much like he does Floyd Mayweather. Such a lack of objectivity in that guy, he has his favourites and would argue black is white for them.

 

The MAB-Hamed fight was one of the most aesthetically satisfying fights of all time. I only wish, in a sadistic sort of way that the fight was for 15 rounds. I think Barrera would have maybe even scored a kd along the way of further humiliating the "prince".

 

I reckon when Barrera rammed Naz's face into the turn buckle it was as good as a knockdown.:yep

I didn't mind Hamed at the time but all these people who reckon he was one of the best ever have turned me right off him. He had enormous power but his balance and basics were **** and always were. He looked amazing beating up Euro level types but struggled more and more as his quality of opposition rose and I don't think it was because his dedication was lacking. It's just that the best guys weren't fooled by his weird style, could see and exploit his mistakes which made him seem less and less impressive as he went on. Luckily for him his power,which was elite, was always there to bail him out, until Barrera trounced him anyway.

 

Irony overload :roll:

 

So what you're saying is that you've allowed other peoples opinions of him affect how you feel about Hamed?

 

1. hamed was nowhere near the best or most talented fw ever. willie pep is
2. he clearly lost his motivation and dedication long before barrera, to say otherwise is the average personallity motivated bull**** that should not be listend too.
3. the barera was far from the beating some people here are saying, it was tactical and boring, barera was naturally bigger and fought a dull, defensive fight
4. i am a big fan, but of hamed the entertainer, hamed the fighter was far from the best, although most of the hate he gets is because of his personality and from some purists who want every boxer to be the same. just enjoy his fights, or don't watch them.

 

Not exactly.

I've always thought he wasn't as good as people (and certainly Hamed himself) thought he was. His flaws were obvious and it was only a matter of time before they bit him on the arse. But I always liked watching him fight and I greatly admired his amazing power. So my opinion on him hasn't changed in that regard.

The massive overrating of him since he quit and that continues to this day grew tiresome a long time ago. I've often seen the Hamed-Steve Robinson fight used as some example of his brilliance when it was a typical Hamed display against a slow plodder who was too scared to let his hands go. Yet I've heard ridiculous claims that this version of Naz could beat anyone from Barrera to Floyd Mayweather. Utter bull**** of course but it's an example of how carried away with him some people get.

This sort of stuff and arguing with people who believe it has turned me from a sort of fan, who didn't mind him, into a critic who enjoys watching Barrera spank him.

So in a way some peoples opinions have certainly influenced my own so I suppose that's a fair question.

 

I think they were putting a fight together before the Espinosa fight and it fell through, Mkkinney was pretty bitter about it, seemed to be a drug addict too

I understand your reasoning for picking Jones, if he had a chin I'd pick him too, but I think Hamed gets to him and puts him to sleep, still if he fought super disciplined and conservatively, he could box to a decision, his exciting nature was perhaps his folly. This would have been more exciting than Hamed-Kelly in my opinion, which is saying something, the type of fight that makes Rocky movies seem realistic

Your hatred of Hamed is legendary. Marquez was a nobody and should have jumped at the career high payday but had **** management that also turned down an immediate Pacquaio rematch

Funny how his HBO contract was up, they wouldn't renew, Rebok weren't renewing their contract and he was receiving death threats post Sep11th and how suprising it is with 100million in the bank and 40lbs over his fighting weight he called it a day

He did have a sharp heavy jab with plenty of recoil, he also used a lazy jab he left out to be countered to slip and counter the opponents counter, it's called drawing a counter

The self confessed '*******' (your words) arguing about objectivity 99% of your boxing posts are Pacquaio spin or Calzaghe hatred. And this post is a pretty obvious attempt to deflect your lack of knowledge about the subject matter

I think this version knocks out the aggressive reckless Barrera that fought Mkkinney or Junior Jones. Barrera fought conservatively for good reason in this fight. Mayweather would obviously beat him

 

The head rammed into the turnbuckle was as beautiful as a kd..a final expression of contempt directed at the "prince"..as humiliating a gesture as a slap in the face, or a drink tossed in his face at a dinner party gone bad. For all the bad taste Hamed displayed in humiliating beaten opponents in the past...all those obscenely tasteless ring entrances, all that arrogant crap and bad sportsmanship and lack of class..Barrera made him pay dearly as he exposed him for what he really was...and it really worked, didn't it. MAB essentially retired him.

 

Could have been one of the best at Feather but def. not the best nor even top 5. No way Jose. Like many have said there are quite a few of fighters like him, fire*******s that had alot of attention and made a loud noise then but fizzled out quickly while people reminisce how good he "could've been".