Nasim's gameplan for SSM to beat FMJ:

Good post but Mayweather counters the left to the body with a short right uppercut. A right to the body will suffice.

 

Yeah well, I guess we'll see what his "fruity ass" can do against Shane.

 

Most of Mosley's losses came from bigger fighters with great jabs (Wright, Forest lossed 2x to both).

 

Absolutely correct IMO, other than the word "simple". You can't just pressure Floyd, because he fights better on the backfoot than he does going forward. He WANTS you lunging in at him, with your feet off balance and your 1-2's and predictable hooks.

 

A. If Opponent A and Floyd are both fighting "defensively" then what makes you think Floyd still won't win the rounds?
B. If Opponent A doesn't attack, and does nothing...how will they stop Floyd from Pot-shotting. That is the absolute worst thing to do against Floyd because he is so fast, his foot work and timing are so good that if you are not attacking, he can pot-shot the hell out of you.
3. Watch his attempts at 1-2 combinations and "move out of the way"? Good luck, first you have to be quick enough and know what he's gonna do before he does it....good luck in deed.
4. The funny thing is that your entire 1st paragraph is describing "Floyd Mayweather" and how HE FIGHTS :deal

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

just laughed my ass off at work.. you bastid

 

After watching those Cotto highlights... Mosley might get KTFO. He keeps his lead hand really low. I see Mayweather sticking him something serious. Straights usually beat hooks. Mosley might get popped.

 

LMAO :rofl

But seriously, in order to beat Floyd, Shane has to gradually get him to the ropes and then bang away mostly at his body with a few shots upstair mixed in(75% of all shots downstairs while on the ropes) He can spend most of the round(about half) working Floyd to the ropes and then do a majority of his work with Floyd on the ropes to cinch the round. Floyd's not known for a high workrate so swamping him with alot of punches there will negate anything landed off the ropes by Floyd. Shane needs to keep him pinned there as long as he can WHILE working.

How to get Floyd there? While walking him down from the middle of the ring the jab will be Mosley's best friend as long as it's snappy and not lazy where Floyd can counter it and see it coming. Floyd loves inviting power shots from the middle of the ring because his quick reflexes and feet and counterpunching allow him to counter while getting out of the way. A snappy jab doesn't afford him quite the opportunity to do this. Mosley should only focus on jabs to the head and body and the straight right to the body to physically push Floyd towards the ropes while not leaving himself too off balance. ONLY when Mayweather's back is to the ropes would you want to start bringing hooks(mainly to the body) and the overhand right into play. Mosley should body Floyd into the ropes with his left shoulder and dig the body while throwing in the occassional overhand right(mixing that up with the right to the body)

If Oscar could get to Floyd with his jab, and even stumpy Ricky Hatton enjoyed success jabbing Floyd, then there is no reason Mosley can't enjoy success against Floyd.

Oh one more thing, Mosley has to rough Floyd up like a ragdoll. You know Floyd will try to use that left forearm to the throat(which Mosley should throw a right hand to the body under if to stop that quick), so Mosley must get straight up down and dirty with rough house tactics.

 

I think we'll see a very tatical strategy implementing a lot of lateral movment with a strong consistant Jab in hopes to keep Floyd out of rythm. Shane will have to be the pressure fighter and allow Floyd to be the counter pucher he loves to be....but the pressure has got to be intelligent which I'm sure Naz will have Shane fully prepared for. I'm sure Shane will try to stay on the inside for the majority of the fight and give Floyd some differnet looks for only moments on the outside. I favor Floyd but Shane has the experience, tools and power to overcome Floyd if he makes any mistakes.

 

He'll find someway to win. Nasim is a great trainer. I would suggest finding someway for Floyd to come forward because Floyd tends to fight on the backfoot quite well and loves for his opponents to comeforward. If that is done then slip his punches and counter him. Way easier said then done.

 

The only successful strategy involves firearms, otherwise it's Floyd all the way to a wide UD.

 

That's what Forrest put him down with, Winky had success with his left hand, and even Cotto had success with his right hand.

 

the only person to outbox shane is cotto.

Vernon didnt realy outbox him, he hugged shane to death and use his lanky range and height to keep shane at bay in both fights, but he didnt really outbox him.

WInky was just to big for shane. Shane couldnt impose his well and break that shell defense as the smaller man. As the taller man, winky's range job bothered him.

So yes in a sense both vernon and winky outboxed him, but it was becuase they were able to take advantage of their physical attributes thaty they possessed over shane. Floyd mayweather has ZERO off those attributes neither the power to hurt shane.

The only fair refernce to being outboxed was miguel cotto.

 

i agree. Hatton did well until he got tired. This is why i think a volume puncher like williams would beat the defensive pbf. pw would pepper him from the outside. also unlike hatton, Manny will not get tired, frustrated, and let off the gas. plus manny punches from odd angles and would give pbf fits. Mosley does have a chance if he fights smart. Old Oscar almost beat floyd just for being more active.