are you know what yor talking about winky not a power puncher but definitly not a mover never hard to find but hard to hit then a plus defense an world class jab kept shane of balance and he was naturaly bigger man polar oppisite floyd an the viper tremendous fighter with power legeth were shane could never get in rythm agin the jab was key both nothing like floyd an both guys floyd would never attempt to fight in there primes the pre damaged cotto the other loss i had shane winning but miguel boxed well shane only problem in that fight he gave cotto alittle to much respect early shane on the other hand brings a whole lot more than any fighter floyd has faught before even at this stage of sugar shanes illustrious career were he has faught any an all comers...