Nat Fleischer's Opinion Of The 1955 Marciano

Very accurate and fair assessment.

 

Marciano was kinda like a Soviet T-34 tank from WW2. Not pretty....but somehow at the end the day it beats the "flip" out of you.

 

Nat nailed that one. He should have said a lot about his stamina and will to win, but did not mention it.

Regarding the knockdowns, Rocky wasn't in danger and quickly recovered from the punch. Being floored and being hurt by the punch are two different things..

 

Probably about the only thing Nat Fleischer ever said which I agree with...

 

Most tellingly Nat (who witnessed both in their primes from the front row, ringside apron) also said

"Clay never could have beaten Marciano. Clay's record is not the superior of the one the tragic Rocky left behind him when he retired from boxing unbeaten."

Nat also said it would be "farcical" to drop Rocky Marciano from his own top ten all time list in order to include Muhammad Ali.


"I did not regard Ali as a member of the leading 10 before he got into his argument with the Federal Courts. I did not see, in the Clay record as it stood after his seven-round knockout of Zora Folley in New York on March 22, 1967, any reason for my revising the heavyweight listing to include Cassius among the all-time 10. Nor did the Quarry, Bonavena, and Frazier fights impress me to the point at which I found myself considering ousting one of my Great 10 to make room for Clay."

 

Rocky could be very honest.

He was up in 4 seconds. Stunned temporarily, but like I said he recovered quickly and did just fine for the rest of the round. If Rocky was hurt, he gets up slower, then clinches. That did not happen.

So I'll stand that Rocky was never hurt by a single shot to the point where he was in jeopardy of losing.

Moore had 132 knockouts. No doubt he could hit. He was also skilled and crafty.

 

You can't read and are an embarrassment to the forum. I seldom see anyone say good post-Mcvey! Mostly you regurgitate stuff from books and use double standards.

Re-read what I said,

I'm agreeing with Rocky and in this case yourself. Dolt.

 

The fact that Ali had been calling himself exactly that for 7 years by the time he had fought Frazier, yet Fleischer still refers to him as Clay, tells you all you need to know about the fool.

 

You were just made for the 100th time. This time, it was a reading comprehension issue. It's very easy to counter punch you into the cheap seats, and many posters can do the same. Ad hominem and spell checks is all you have. Pathetic you are. Now be silent and hold your forked tongue in your mouth, or I'll make you angry enough to reply in CAPS

 

Moore claimed the ref gave Rocky a standing 8 count (which he shouldn't have) and gave him a few more seconds to recoup.