Nate Campbell doesn't deserve a No Contest....

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I've never had blood in my eye, but from what I have heard it stings. Campbell never showed indication by his body reacting to blood in the eye, be it blinking and watering, or rubbing it with his glove/hand or keeping it closed. His eye was clearly wide open and he was looking around w/o any burden from it. You could say it's a stretch if you think , but as someone who's worn contacts most of my life, your eyes are pretty sensitive to anything getting in.

    His actions show he was looking to quit and he was hoping at a rule would help him walk away w/o a loss.

    He could not see like Judah claimed he couldn't see vs. Clottey.
     
  2. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    :nut
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    When the man can't see he will say so, he won't lie to satisfy a few McDonald's enthusiasts on the internet. The man is 37 years old and getting a cut like that so early against an A class fighter like Bradley is no joke to ignore.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He's absolutely right. The fight was stopped because of Campbell seeing spots. There has to be proof the headbutt (which was wiped clean in a second by Campbell's corner) was the cause of the spots. But he's getting punched there as well. Can you say for sure it wasn't any punch?

    But all that is moot when you look at Campbell's action looking to get out of the fight. Her wanted out, he got out.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Where'd you go Lance?
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    The doctors normally come into the ring to check on a fighter after a cut in the eye. The doctor never had time to check before campbell was calling to stop it because he could not see.

    After the Doctor said to stop it, the Doctor then checked his eye and saw the blood behind it.

    Which would of prompted a stoppage either way. Had Campbell said nothing, the eye would of been checked.
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    You have a point but Nate could argue that the ref never gave him time to recover from a serious head butt thus prompting Campbell to fight after taking an illegal blow. Thus causing the injury.

    Just a thought.
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Great post.:good
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Why would Nate argue in the first place he needed time to recover from a butt? As another way to look for an out? Obviously he wasn't woosy or staggered from the butt. All it did was open a cut that wasn't even bleeding badly and that his corner could have managed.

    And it wasn't an illegal blow. Intentional HB's are illegal. Not accidental. That would be like Shane trying to get out from being dropped after a HB w/ Vern Forrest in their first fight.
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    C'mon eze... you are rewriting history here.:lol: The doctor made no indication that he actual "saw blood behind his eye". That's a pretty hard thing to see.:lol:

    If he would have actually seen blood coming from behind Campbell's eye... he would have definitely stopped it at that point. The Doctor checked the cut, seen no real problem and was ready to let the fight continue. Campbell's complaints of seeing spots is the ONLY reason that the fight was stopped. Also... Campbell's complaints of seeing spots is why the Doctor gave that diagnoses. He has to assume that Campbell is telling the truth about seeing spots... so his diagnoses was based on that as well.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Well we all know the butt caused the cut... that's why he was looking for time to recover because he himself knew the cut and the loss of vision, then spots in his eye. (I believe him)

    It was an illegal blow but not in the sense of what bradley did was wrong.

    Low Blows are illegal but also accidental etc etc.


    PS Where'd you go, vacation?
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Then why would the doctor say it Widdow?

    "Prior to the stoppage, Campbell had told his corner that he was seeing spots in the left eye and advised them to stop the fight because something was wrong. When the doctor entered the ring to take a look, he spotted blood behind Campbell's eye and told his corner the fight was immediately being stopped."

    I stated that is the reason why the fight was stopped because he stated he could not see. The doctor checked the cut and then Campbell said he couldn't see. Prompting the stoppage.

    The doctor then checked his eye and deemed he had blood behind it.
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

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    There is no time to recover. When have you ever seen a fighter given time to recover from an accidental HB? :huh

    It was accidental, NOT illegal. Two different definitions. And I know what you are trying to say, YES it was a headbutt and that is NOT a legal punch, so it must be illegal... something of that effect.

    And low blows for the most part are initiated by one party at a time, accidental heabutts are often just that, accidental not initiated necessarily by only one fighter. Replays show it was accidental.

    And just been outside doing **** for the most part. Summer's been pretty good.
     
  14. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I watched the ref break both of them up twice prior in the fight for minor head butts. Then the biggest one of all he lets it go on?


    Yes. I just used illegal as in that it shouldn't happen.

    It was accidental but still the cut was caused by something other than a punch.
     
  15. PH|LLA

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    you'd assume that after something like that they took Nate to the hospital and examined his eye. If they find that he did in fact have hemorraging behind the eye then it should be a NC

    however its pretty crystal clear that the fight was not stopped due to that cut