I was looking at Nate's chat and thinking about my own observations and it occurred to me that Nate is 100% correct. Black champions and contenders get no respect whatsoever from the boxing fanbase, outside of other blacks. People diminish Nate Campbell for losing to Peden, when he took the damn title from the man who was cleaning up the division. Yet they praise Paciaqou, JMM, Barerra, and Morales all who were also beaten by subpar competition. People diminish Floyd for having the success he had moving up in weight and securing championships from the lineal titlists, yet love Oscar De La Hoya so much that they will purchase the garbage fights he puts on. I could name a whole bunch of black fighters, such as Paul williams, who get put down for suceeding, while it seems the majority of the fanbase praise mexican and european fighter's loses. -- Maybe I'm being myopic though, that is why I started this thread. Does anyone else see this happening in the sport.
Yea, people always put down Ali, Joe Louis,RJJ... not. And Joe Calzaghe gets no **** cause hes white... i would be surprise to see in the search feature if you wrote ''bum'' and ''calzaghe'' the amount of thread mentions you would get. Floyd gets **** cause he retired to early and fought the big show. thats it.
I don't think it's as simple as Nate makes it out to be. I think in general people tend to support their own kind, and there are a lot more European and Hispanic fans of boxing right now, especially when compared to Blacks. I'm Black, and I can tell you that boxing is way down on the list of sports that Blacks follow closely, generally speaking. It's basketball and football more than anything else. I think that's probably why it seems, particularly on message boards such as this, that Black boxers get criticized more. If you had a big influx of new Black boxing fans, things might even it more. Now, I'm not saying that all white fans support all white fighters, all Black fans support all Black fighters, or all Hispanic fans support all Hispanic fighters. You see examples of the opposite on ESB. I'm saying that generally speaking, people tend to identify and support their own. That's just natural.
I don't think he always tells the truth. He's been linked to steroid use since they never tested him during the diaz fight.
Overall, I would agree with this. Mexicans make up a large percentage of boxing's fan base in the States. As a result, there is more of a focus on them. On these forums, you are correct. People with indentify with people that look like them. There aren't many black posters on this board, so there aren't many to take up the cause of black fighters.
Agreed! But also white americans have no problem rooting for an African American. I am a very big PW fan and JT fan. The big problem is that Americans dont give a **** about boxing anymore unless they are mexican American.
I would agree with this. I think white Americans are the most apt to root for guys outside of their race.
tell him to stop crying.... why do blacks always pull the race card.... just cause nate is all of a sudden taking his career serious, he wants the boxing world to bend over for him.... i give him props for beating a young lion like juan, but i aint blind, skill for skill he wasn't winning until he started using dirty ass tactics......
Campbell is wrong. He gets praise from me and i'm not black. There goes that theory, straight to the garbage. he also gets alot of praise from those 2 ricans on p4p boxing.
Aren't you pulling the race card by claiming blacks always do the same? Of course, why would you give him his just due? Sure, he only beat Diaz because he used dirty tactics. Who cares if that cut that they tried to claim was caused by a headbutt ws proven to be caused by a punch?
Nate never said that he only gets praise from Blacks. The threadstarter suggested that people tend to root for their own people in boxing. Obviously, the theory can't be absolute.