Nate Campbell tells the truth.

The majority of the fans in the lower weight classes are latino fans ( mostly Mexicans and Puerto Ricans) nearly 100 % of the time they support their fighters. Nearly every fight Campbell has ever been in the crowd has been against him.

Campbell if he was Mexican, the fans would be going crazy about him. But he is not. Campbell is telling it like it is. But by saying something that is not PC, it makes Campbell a racist. And that is the worst ****ing thing that you can be called in this society. Campbell you have my support. Continue to knock out Mexicans and do what you do best. If they don't like it F#ck them.

 

Let me tell you something. Campbell deserves major credit, he was given no chance, went into undefeated Juan Diaz's hometown, and whooped his ass every round over 12 rounds. Campbell was then going to take on the supposed next big thing Juan Guzman. Blaim Guzman for the fight not happening.

 

well that was his whole point. Why is it that todays guys arent revered like that? Do you really think Marquez or Barerra could have held Duran's jock? I sure dont. Duran would have smashed both of them before lunch, banged 2 hookers, and then smashed Morales after dinner on the same day. But they are not held to that standard. That was the whole point.

 

Jesus christ. Nobody ever said he was. His whole point was the question of what has changed in the last 10-20 years or so that black fighters arent elevated like they used to be. Was it a lack of talent, or a reduced fan base, or changing media preference. It was just a discussion, not a "poor, poor black man" rant.

p.s. and mayweather doesnt count. he is an entertainer, not a fighter.

 

lol............................

 

Every man lives with his own truth...........To nate that is his truth, is it right??? Depends on who you ask. What Im saying is 1) People that have those feeling arent going to admitt it. Its only natural to root for those that look like you, that come from were you come from. In a way you can relate to that person even without knowing them. 2)Black fighters and even to a large extent white American fighters do have things going agaist them in one way or another.

EX-Pavlik's fights were rejected a number of times while coming up by HBO and Showtime...REASON?? Because he is white and american and therefore he cant possible be any good, its only a matter of time before he gets handed his ass right??? Thats bull****, not when HBO and Showtime will show mismatch after mismatch that has Latino, black and white European fighters. As a black man I can see that, I know that and I can admitt that. Its just like a white runningback or corner in the NFL, whenever they see one they assume that he isnt very good and thus he doesnt get a fair shot. Anyone that thinks that Pavlik was given a fair shot is crazy, he had an outstanding amateur career, and was over looked for almost 30 fights, not even ESPN would give the kid a shot to headline. That is racism, its also racist that 98% of black fighters are bashed most of the time on shaky at best grounds.

Say what you will about fighting styles but that is bullsh*t as well. Or someone being a loudmouth that too is bullsh*t...Its simply a matter of where you come from, not really on color...Tito is a black man and is one of the most beloved fighters of his era..But he is Latino its about were he is from not his color, had he come from Houston and been the same fighter he wouldnt have been as beloved. If Pavlik was from Poland his following would be huge but he is from Ohio so not so much. Its just the turn that boxing has taken, and in the end its more about $$$$$$ then anything...White European fighters pack arenas, and Latino fighters blow up PPV numbers so they are the dominate force in boxing right now, not so much to do with actaully being good or being the best fighters. Mayweather was the best fighter for Years and he wasnt beloved, Pac seems to be the man now, and even though he is somewhat beloved he doesnt pack arenas or do great PPV numbers.


Im done, I got going on that one let me step down from my soapboxatsch

 

I think Nate should have fought as youngster honestly and maybe he would have had guys follow his career a bit more. and he needs to realize that from a fans perspective, its hard to want to follow a guy who is 35 and realistically not going to get better or lose his titles next time out. Most fans know Nate is a tough, hardpunching guy but to many fans he's just another Vince Phillips, capable of giving a good fight,test,and once and a while pull the upset... just my opinion

 

Nate didnt stick his foot in his mouth. Someone posted 1 sentence about black fighters being discriminated against, and that was not even in the context of what Nate was talking about. And I know it for a fact, because him and I have discussed it personally for hours on end. I know his views on the subject personally.

And as for me "admitting" a connection to Nate, well, I'm actually proud of the fact that I co-promote the best lightweight in the world. Nothing there to "admit" to.

 

fighters who come to fight and aren't loudmouth arrogant jerks will always have a fan base regardless of color. STop and really think about it.

 

I can appreciate your point. But somehow this discussion has turned into people thinking Nate was talking about his own career. He wasnt. He was only discussing why black fighters today are not revered like the black fighters of years ago. It was that simple. But a few posters here with an agenda are trying to turn it into something else.

 

I agree with you about Campbell, but in his day Vince was a helluva fighter, and much more then a test, which is the reason that Oscar and tito never fought the guy, he was more of a Forrest type. Keep in mind Vince had 9 of his 12 loses after the age of 35, and his only REAL lost of the first three was to Ike Quartey, one lost was due to a cut in a fight his was winning, and the other was a bull**** dec.

 

Thats the way it is on ESB. anything that has to do with race,ethnicity or anything like that will get rants about racism and all that. Nate is calling it like he see's it but people forget that world class boxing is exactly just that "world class", Just like soccer its a nationalistic sport. this a a sport that has to do alot with race,ethnicity and geographical demographics but it shouldn't be tha main focus . Its politically incorrect to say this but that the way it is just ask a promoter.

 

Then were is Taylors fanbase??? What about Pavlik??? I know that some people actaully believe that, but its more to it then that. Taylor vs Pavlik on regular HBO and Casamayor vs Marquez on PPV:hey

 

well I guess he should have been compared to a rich mans version of Antwuan Echols then

 

Ok your right but the formula i gave earlier usually works , and the rest is up to the Promoter to promote. Its a buisness and these promoters arn't going to fix somthing that in their eyes "aint broke". In this case Promoters are making money off of latino fighters and arn't too in to revolutionizing the sport to try to get the interest back on black fighters if it means going the extra mile for a figher. I guess this was PBF argument to Arum back in the day when Arum promoted floyd... Only difference is like I said its hard to promote floyd with his inability to give fan friendly fights and ooze his arrogance and cockness all over tha camera.