Nathan Cleverly...Was there ever an explanation for his one-armed bandit routine?

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah, it was just the devastating effect it had on him mentally. Losing in that manner in front of his home fans can't have helped.
     
  2. JOSEY WALES

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    No pro wants to lose in front of their countrymen especially us Welsh :yep but to tell the truth anyone who knows a bit about the sport had alarm bells ringing in their ears when the fight was announced , personally i thought at the time he should have fought Jurgen the German to see if he was truly @ world class level but he got handed his title if we are being honest and his biggest win up until the Kovalev fight was another imo fringe world class fighter in Bellew and it could be argued he lost that fight as well ( not by me as i thought he done the cleaner work after Tony had abandoned his jab and nicked the decision due to his conditioning ) .
     
  3. bailey

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    It was bizzare in the second Bellew fight how he just jabbed and nothing else. It almost seemed to me like he didnt really want to win and just go the distance. Bellew didnt look good to me either.
    Sometimes a fighter never seems the same after a loss and I think the Kovalev loss did damage.
    I think Nathans lost his confidence. He didnt sound confident at all when talking about Braehmer.
     
  4. Serge

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    I thought it was really bad move for him to choose to fight Kovalev at the time too. Kovalev was considered a beast for a reason and to pick him out for a voluntary defence was a massive risk. Credit to Cleverly for taking it though, even though it backfired.

    Cleverly went from beating Bellew with a couple of fractured ribs (albeit close) the first time they fought to turning into an intimidated lesser version of Virgil Hill in the rematch ie. just jab crazy.
     
  5. JOSEY WALES

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    Well to be the best he had to fight the best and there's few arguments that he was a ducker in all honesty I think he would have had more joy fighting Stevenson I ain't saying he'd best him but he would have given him a better go style wise than Bellew did imo saying that Bellew probably would have done better v Kovalev that Nath did , who knows for sure ?
     
  6. plank46

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    what on earth can he do at lhw? get ktfo, thats it.
     
  7. bailey

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    Thats right, he won the first fight with an injury and took some massive blows without flinching.
    Its amusing how many used to discredit Cleverly, yet so many of the top LHWs that are rated seem to fight his former foes

    Cleverly beats Murat, who Hopkins went on to fight

    Cleverly beats Mohammedi who seems may get a shot at Kovalev after Pascal

    Cleverly beats Kuziemski who Pascal fights after

    Cleverly beats Bellew who Stevenson went on to fight

    Cleverly beats Karpency who Dawson went on to fight

    Cleverly beats Krasniqi who Braehmer has just fought


    Cleverly had Brahmer and Shumenov back out of facing him and some who he beat were or became top 10 rated in Bellew, Murat, Karpency
     
  8. Serge

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    Cleverly was a good fighter. People also forget that he wanted to fight the bigger names, and as you say, Braehmer pulled out of fighting him (numerous times IIRC) and so did Shumenov.
     
  9. JOSEY WALES

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    Against the elite of the division I agree but there's a living and a decent boxing career a level below .
     
  10. HerolGee

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    yes its like I always said nath should now aim for his real destiny without wassen, that of becoming welsh and eurochamp (if he tried very hard).
     
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