naz....hardest hitter....??

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Fantastic post Sonny, a ripper.
     
  2. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    I agree with all that 100%

    and Very few people outside of England saw the real Hamed.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The nearest to him would be Sandy Saddler ,imo.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Good choices,both had fine one shot power.
     
  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Azumah was a powerful man and powerful puncher as well with either hand. Azumah toyed with a higher level of competition than many times holding back his power to torment the likes of Martinez even more.

    The thing about Naz's power when I saw him was it was difficult to tell why it came from perhaps his thighs.
     
  6. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    You're right. I think Naz basically became 'power happy'. He knew he had God given power (in fact he used to say it came directly from Allah himself) and so he stopped being impossible to hit and focused on just trying to knock his opponents out, often in a predicted round Ali-style. That was the beginning of the end, not the Kelly fight and not because he stepped up in competition.

    Had Naz stayed at Bamtamweight and had stayed focused I think he would have been a top 10 Bantamweight of all time. Even at Featherweight (where he was very short) he would have been an ATG had he kept his elusive style and focus. Sadly he became caught up in his own hype, didn't spar or train properly and tried to knock out opponents with almost every punch.
     
  7. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Exactamundo brother.

    Doppleganger, you speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
     
  8. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ....i remember naz fondly and really think that a prime naz, ie the one before he started believeing his own hype, would have troubled any bantamweight or featherweight in the world....manny steward said he hit like a middleweight, which is some power.....
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I rank Naz as one of the heaviest punchers this sport has ever seen. His power was concussive and debilitating. His record speaks for itself and dare you challenge it then you can watch the tape to see the victims.

    Naz was a featherweight because he didn't train like a Hopkins or a Mayweather. If he did then he would be bantam, maybe super bantam.

    The reason NAz couldn't really go to super feather or lightweight was because he was already in his third division.
     
  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    There is no doubt Naz stopped training like he should, forgot about what made him great technically and bombed away. Fists that were wrecking balls, his rocket launchers he called them.

    Naz is a lower weight Tyson. Like Tyson lost to Holy, Naz lost to MAB. Neither were prime but the upsets were special performances where prime or not, it didn't matter. We must not forget or discredit what they did before this.

    NAZ literally dominated a division and has ownership to something like six belts, the major and minor ones.
     
  11. Sweet Science

    Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior Full Member

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    Achilles, do you agree that a prime Hamed from 95-96' would have most likely beaten the great Barrera?
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Naz was also more of a natural bantamweight and could have stayed at 118 or 122 for his whole career if he wanted too
     
  13. janitor

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  14. Shareef

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    There is no doubt that Hamed wasn't at his best by the time he fought Barrera. He had stopped training hard and was completely in his own world of invincibility. Anyone who doesn't believe so they should watch the documentary "Little Prince Big Fight" which documents the events leading up to his fight with MAB. It was all downhill for Hamed once he split with Ingle. A prime Prince would offer a better fight against MAB whether he won or lost that i am certain of. Also i dont' know why he gets all the hate he lost a decision which was lopsided but its not like he got knocked out or anything it could have been much worse than it was.
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Unfortunately not. That Barrera was sensational. At times punch perfect.

    Earlier on, MAB was a different fighter and yes I do think Hamed could beat that fighter. MAB was too ballsy, even open and Hamed was more scientific as he delivered accurate and devastating cannonballs at your chin AND body! I can envision a stoppage as MAB had no B plan. When he brawled he had no B plan. The late MAB boxed and had brawling as a B plan.