Naz? Lewis? Calzaghe? Who is the greatest British boxer of all time?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Eubank didn`t fight the best in his division, he may have been able to have fought Nunn before the loss to Toney at 160, Nunn was better than Watson who was out classed by McCallum, who offered Eubank a fight but was ducked, Eubank fought the man McCallum beat instead, McCallum had a far better career than Eubank did. Eubank should have fought Toney and Jones at 168 also.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He used feints and 1-2`s more than less savvy fighters, he also adapted well to Kessler afte getting caught a lot early on, he also had a great counter jab.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Eubank got caught a lot more by Watson than McCallum did.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    You seriously think Honeyghan was better than Hearns, Hagler and McCallum in 1986? Was he rated No.1 P4P after beating Curry by the ring magazine? Hagler, Curry and Hearns were the top 3 P4P fighters in 1986.
     
  5. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns never fought at 154 after Honeyghan beat Curry, never mind welterweight. His first fight in 1987 was at LHW. His last fight at welter was in 1981 against Leonard. How is he going to cut weight to fight Honeyghan at welterweight? At that point you're comparing a welterweight and a middleweight. You might as well talk about Honeyghan cutting weight and beating up Chavez.

    The concept of p4p is ability relative to weight. Speculating that Honeyghan would lose against larger fighters like Hearns and McCallum completely misses that point.

    Prior to the Vaca fight, the US mags were talking about Honeyghan in terms of p4p best - IIRC correctly a poll had him at #5, so he was well in the argument at the time.

    Offensively, he may well have been the best offensive fighter in the world at that point alongside Tyson. He destroyed respected former and future world titlists between 85-88. Rosi went on to hold a title at 154 for the best part of 7 years, but Honeyghan left him snoozing on top of the timekeeper inside of 3 rounds. Hatcher was a tough guy and was flat out within a minute.

    As we know with the benefit of hindsight, Honeyghan was a bit of a frontrunner and his prime was brief. However, at his absolute peak he was a beast at welter and a handful for a lot of more celebrated champions in any fantasy match-up.
     
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  6. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nelson was Danish wasn't he ?
     
  7. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh **** I meant Owen Moran!

    (Moran beat that legend)
     
  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you have nothing better to do?
     
  9. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are seriously taking the ****. **** off.
     
  10. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why give him the satisfaction he wants?

    He always brings up off topic nonsense in a autistic type lay out to try to annoy people here, it's his hobby.
     
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  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When referring to 'JC' are we referring to the great John Conteh, or Calzaghe?
     
  12. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Generally, I think it's better to play the ball than the man.

    It's not so much about getting into a circular argument with a particular poster, but challenging the view that Honeyghan was a one-hit wonder, or that the stars aligned for him against Curry. This is often put out there by a lot of other posters who are actually respected.
     
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  13. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Owen Moran must have been some Fighter.
     
  14. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody mentioned anything here regarding the mythical magazine 'p4p' list (that was in KO magazine at the end of each year (didn't reach TV talk until the 2000s)).
     
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  15. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Crossed the Atlantic to Nelson's backyard and beat him down! Wow!!