Nazim and Winky on Mayweather vs Pacquiao

boxsensei · Dec 4, 2009

paulfv said: ↑

False, at least not at 19 years old.

PBF: 19 years old -- 1996 -- 131 lbs
Pac: 19 years old -- 1998 -- 114 lbs

PBF: 5'8.0", 72" reach
Pac: 5'6.5", 67" reach

Floyd is the bigger man, there's no doubt about it. Floyd knows it, too, which is why he's said the fight is a "no-win" for him. The bigger man is supposed to beat the smaller man.

Naz knows that, he's just talking his general smack and also saying what's important for the PBF training camp mindset.
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Floyd may have been bigger when they were 19, but now they are both welterweights.

charlievint · Dec 4, 2009

mking said: ↑

Brother Nazim Richardson:
Oh, I don't mess with that stuff man. Now in the last couple fights they asked me to pick. I called them and I picked the right guy. But my thing is this man: Everybody at this level can fight, everybody is special up at that level. So your queen can't do more than my queen, your rook doesn't move in a way my rook doesn't move. It's going to be the strategy employed that makes the difference

Now, I'm gonna tell you, though. From Floyd's perspective: the minute you start talking about how small Pacquiao is, you're beat. I told Shane, "if you fight him, if anybody in the camp calls you bigger than Pacquiao, I'll put them out of the camp."

Because that's just media ****. Every time they mention Pacquiao they mention he started at 106 lbs. Well, hot damn, all of us at one time were under 25lbs! I got up to be over 300 lbs, but one time I was under 25 lbs. Why do they talk like that, "You know he started his career at 106."

But they keep bringing it up and I told them the same thing; the greatest trick the devil ever did was convince the world he didn't exist. The greatest trick that Pacquiao ever did was convince you all that he was a small man! And he's going to keep beating the **** out of people who keep thinking he's a small man. At 147 lbs., Pacquiao is a small man like Mike Tyson was a small heavyweight!

Was Mike Tyson a small heavyweight? Well, he was a pretty short heavyweight, but short and small are two different things. As long as they keep believing that they'll get beat. Cotto did that though the first couple of rounds. He hit Pacquiao the first couple of rounds and Pacquiao stood there, and Cotto is like, what? He gonna stay there a little longer.

Let me ask you a question. Muhammad Ali was the taller man against Frazier, correct?

Ali shot the jab, and circled. Didn't that happen?

When do we change in boxing and say, "the guy is shorter than me I'm gonna walk him down." That was boxing 101, that was common sense in boxing. I thought everybody knew-I thought people who couldn't box knew that. Cotto is in there, and Oscar walking him down. Is Muhammed Ali gonna walk Joe Frazier down? "Joe Frazier's the small heavyweight." So don't tell me Pacquiao is smaller. Either guy can win.

Winky Wright:

I picked Cotto. I went against Pacquiao two times. Against De La Hoya and against Cotto. And both times I lost. Pacquiao is an exciting and dangerous fighter, man. Against Floyd or against whoever I'm not gonna bet against him. I thought Floyd would kill him before, but now he made me a believer.
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Yo! Been saying this from JUMP! It ain't no walk in the park for Floyd. Who ever comes in with the best strategy and game plan and who ever is able to apply that strategy will win the fight! I'm really surprised at Wink saying that.

charlievint · Dec 4, 2009

1lehudson said: ↑

Nazim is saying what I have been saying to *******s for a long time now. Pac isnt a small fighter, he merely started at a lower weight, at the same time or age Floyd was at the very same weight.

Nazim is the man, and the reason that he is fast becoming the best trainer in the sport.
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PAC is still considered small...he jsut fights BIG....Like Tyson. Tyson was a small HW...he just faught with BIG power and Big explosiveness. I like the comparison a lot....but have heard it before.

charlievint · Dec 4, 2009

newby johnson said: ↑

You people are so stupid and such sheep it's unbelievable!!! I'll translate for you what Nazim said:

1. at the highest level of boxing all fighters have the same set of skills and abilities so the guy that wins is the guy who has the better strategy
2. the taller fighter isn't necessarily the bigger fighter

Since you're so ****ing stupid I'll tell you that he's wrong on the first thing. Pacquiao and Floyd don't have the same set of skills and abilities.
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Thank you geniusatsch All the **** you did was say the exact same thing everyone else ready you ****ing ****. Naz was saying at this level.....everyone is a talented and highly skilled fighter. No....PAC and manny don't have the same skill sets....but they do have the same ability and talent. Their styles are vastly different but they both are capable of beating anyone as well as each other on any given night. The question is who will have the strategy and gameplan to win the fight in March.

charlievint · Dec 4, 2009

boxsensei said: ↑

Floyd may have been bigger when they were 19, but now they are both welterweights.
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Paul williams was a welter weight at one time too before being forced out and up to the higher weight classes.

brod78 · Dec 4, 2009

Well that was definitely a nice read.

Eastcoast · Dec 4, 2009

What in the hell ever happened to Nazim's boy -Rock Allen? He started his career looking so promising, just never took off. Now he's 28 and still fighting 6 rounders, that is if he's still fighting. I thought he'd be the undisputed 140lb champ right now.

waldoesj · Dec 4, 2009

mking said: ↑

Brother Nazim Richardson:

Now, I'm gonna tell you, though. From Floyd's perspective: the minute you start talking about how small Pacquiao is, you're beat. I told Shane, "if you fight him, if anybody in the camp calls you bigger than Pacquiao, I'll put them out of the camp."
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poor cotto :-(

BigReg · Dec 4, 2009

paulfv said: ↑

False, at least not at 19 years old.

PBF: 19 years old -- 1996 -- 131 lbs
Pac: 19 years old -- 1998 -- 114 lbs

PBF: 5'8.0", 72" reach
Pac: 5'6.5", 67" reach

Floyd is the bigger man, there's no doubt about it. Floyd knows it, too, which is why he's said the fight is a "no-win" for him. The bigger man is supposed to beat the smaller man.

Naz knows that, he's just talking his general smack and also saying what's important for the PBF training camp mindset.
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Wait a minute, how was Floyd fighting at 131 lbs in 1996 when he fought at 125 lbs during the 1996 Olympics?

DobyZhee · Dec 4, 2009

mking said: ↑

But Floyd always thinks he is the bigger guy! Oh yeah he fights small guys!
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:thinkgood point..

SAS2 · Dec 4, 2009

naz is trying real hard to root for pbf here by dissing pac. total crap.

Rock0052 · Dec 4, 2009

In a sport that's filled with white noise, fluff, and posturing, I can always count on Nazim to say something interesting and worth listening to. He should write " How to be an Educated Boxing fan for Dummies" if he ever wants a break from his training gigs.

Marnoff · Dec 4, 2009

Nazim is one of the top boxing experts in history, as far as I'm concerned. Every time he speaks it's just yet another example of a guy who knows what the **** he's talking about.

doubleplaidinum · Dec 4, 2009

brother nazim is the ****. a modern boxing prophet.

Jeff M · Dec 4, 2009

I love Nazim. I love that he also works with Sugar Shane now. People should interview him more instead of Roach.

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