Nazim Richardson "Canelo got gangster in him he beats Golovkin"

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  1. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    I don't want to hear it. For 5 years, *****s went on relentlessly about how Pac was on HGH without a shred of evidence. Then when Floyd was caught using illegal IVs, all of a sudden it's no longer a topic. JMM was doping. Floyd was doping. There's a mound of circumstantial evidence to support these claims.

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  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I don't have any issue with Jacob's as a person. It's his choice to associate what ever he likes so long as he is not contravening any laws.

    My point was that the gangster in Jacob's did not serve him well in the ring, so this foolish man Nazim, has no basis to give Canelo a greater chance to win over GGG, just because he may have grown up surrounded by gangsters.
     
  3. Pimp C

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    I don't want to hear it for years Pac and Pac fans made excuses about testing. Never wanted to test made excuses scared of needles Roach said he didn't know what was in those shakes that Ariza was giving Pac. Wanted to know what would be the penalties if they tested dirty. Hasn't knocked out anyone in years after being on streak. There's mounds of circumstantial evidence to support these claims.:deal:
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Floyd was just really, really thirsty and he couldn't find a glass. That's it, really.
     
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  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Many people on here picked him to not only beat but KO and 'expose' GGG. Not even sure I would pick Canelo to beat Jacobs. Canelo is used to fighting handpicked Glass Jawed opponents like Kirkland, Khan, and Smith or weight draining opponents in 'catchweight' fights. GGG isn't going to be drained nor does he have a Glass Jaw. We all saw what happened when Canelo fought an elite opponent. He lost every single round.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow where do I start.

    First off, I could see how you may think Kirkland or Khan was glass jawed. But how the heck is Liam Smith glass jawed? He was undefeated. And in his last fight he was in a war with Liam Williams blooded for almost the entire fight but didn't get stopped. Liam Smith clearly has proven that he has a very solid chin.

    You say he's "used to" weight draining opponents in 'catchweight' fights. With Chavez, there was a large weight difference between the two fighters, with Chavez not being able to make 160, 164.5 seemed reasonable to me, but you can certainly make the arugment that he would have been a better fighter at 168. That said, please name one guy besides Chavez who Canelo "weight drained" with a catchweight.

    And then you say
    So I'm guessing you're referring to the Mayweather fight. Once again, we get the "he lost every round" argument. But yet the scorecards were 114-114, 116-112, and 117-111. That's far, far from losing every round. In fact, it was Floyd's closest fight since Castillo and DLH.

    And another thing, isn't Cotto an elite fighter too? Canelo won that fight by a very wide margin : 117-111, 119-109, and 118-110! That's a far more dominant margin than Floyd vs Canelo.

    Canelo did incredibly well vs both Floyd and Cotto. Only a handful of fighters have ever come that close to beating Floyd, and Cotto fought Floyd to a much closer fight than he was able to fight Canelo to.
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    The scorecards from the Mayweather and Cotto fight have been discussed on here also from the Lara and Trout fights. They are very dubious and the Mayweather cards were so bad one judge was forced out of the sport. There has been a lot of constructive discussions on here about Canelo and dubious or strange scorecards in fights. There is a clear pattern. Canelo might have won one round (that could be given to him out of pity) against Mayweather. Liam Smith is an absolute bum. If you think that is what he is going to be fighting in September you are in for a rude awakening. Canelo has been coddled and is essentially a manufactured fighter. Everything up to this point has been carefully crafted by Oscar and Golden Boy other than the Mayweather fight and any sane person had Mayweather winning that 10-2 at worst. Those scorecards were an embarrassment.
     
  8. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Another example of hood vernacular taken as gospel.
     
  9. IsaL

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    Do you even follow boxing??

    Curtis is a glass jawed C level fighter, there is no disputing that.

    I'll entertain you though.. How about you tell me why Curtis isn't a C level glass jawed journeyman.

    As far as Canelo weight draining opponentS, there is Chavez who had to cut 3.5 pounds while Canelo moved up 10.5 pounds, and who else? I would love to hear your logic behind this statement.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    You seem to not be able to understand this. My point was Stevens is a Glass Jawed subpar fighter yet we had muppets on here predicting he was going to KO GGG and 'expose' him. Canelo tried to drain GGG down to 155 for a 'catchweight' fight then disgracefully gave up his belt after saying he wasn't going to. Did you somehow forget that?
     
  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    LOL no he'll be in there trying to save his little cherub from GGG
     
  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Come to our gym A see how popular Pollo is with the Mexican fighters & fans ??? They detest him
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO Pimp your joking ??? chavez was there for the paycheck ANY ranked 160 would have beaten him. Both re now despised my the proud Mexican fans
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    None of the 3 judges had it as wide as 10-2, and you're saying he didn't win a single round, now you're saying he might have won one round out of pity. Well which is it?

    As far as CJ Ross being forced out of the sport, that was due to Mayweather's pull in Vegas and his influence in boxing in general to be able to force a judge out of the sport. It all had to do with the fact that Floyd himself and his crew were unwilling to accept that Canelo was his equal, which to me shows how insecure Floyd was throughout everything that surrounded the Canelo event. Canelo proved himself to be Floyd's equal and folks like you still can't accept that. Floyd himself was so scared of the dude that he demanded Canelo agree to a 152 catchweight, I mean how pathetic is that. (And that's much worse than Canelo fighting Chavez at 164.5 as Canelo was fighting 10 lbs above the highest weight he's ever fought at to fight Chavez, while Floyd was already a 154-lb champ who had recently fought at that limit and stressed how important it was that he fought Cotto at 154 and not at a catchweight the year before)

    Saying Canelo has been coddled is ridiculous as he's fought guys like Lara and Trout who were hardly easy fights, Lara is one of the most avoided guys in that division, and Liam Smith of course was an undefeated fighter, a 154-lb champion with a solid chin and good punching power, while you call him an "absolute bum" which is ridiculous, but what can we expect with somebody that thinks Canelo lost every round to Floyd, or all but 1 or 2 rounds.

    Finally, will you agree that Cotto is an elite fighter? You call those scorecards dubious as well? So basically you're completely disagreeing with all 6 judges cards in those 2 fights or ignoring that Cotto is an elite fighter? You can't have your cake and eat it too.
     
  15. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    UK folk don't know nothin' about "gangsta" they don't even got guns over there. They get a letter opener and think they're hood.