Nazim Richardson - Is he juicing his fighters?

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  1. Azania

    Azania Active Member Full Member

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    He's undoubtedly a great strategist,and a master planner...but...let's consider the facts...

    Hopkins...after looking deead and old against Calzaghe... shows up for Kelly Pavlik and,not only does he throw a lot more punches than he usually does..but is noticeably much faster with hand and foot...seemed to a have a better pop on his shots too...he actually wobbled Pavlik a few times...I know styles make fights but daymn!!That kind of physical transformation just does'nt happen overnight...certainly not for a 43yr old.
    Do we know everything there is to know here?And..anybody who has the fight can check this...Right after the fight,before the interviews,Nazim makes Bernard eat something kinda like on the down-low...could'nt make out what it was...and it was after the fight,and so I did'nt make too much of it...until tonite.

    Shane Mosley...after looking his age and less than a world beater against Mayorga...shows up against Margarito fighting like a beast...his speed was awsome..footwork...great snap to his shots....most of all,his workrate was way higher than anybody anticipated....andhe was physically strong in the clinches in there....hell he was pushing Tony away easily most of the time.This is all physical transformation that I find unbelievable...

    Is Nazim feeding these guys something that we don't knw about?

    I hope not.cause it would take away from one Shane Mosley's greatest nights.ut I can't stop wondering...

    Thoughts??
     
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  2. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I doubt it. Nazim is just a smart trainer and understands the sweet science.
     
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  3. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Pavlik wasn't 100% and Hopkins knew early he had an advantage. I don't know if I'd put anymore in it than that.

    And Margo wasn't the same without his casts.
     
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  4. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    'I juice my fighters' ~ Nazim Richardson

    Pretty conclusive proof.
     
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  5. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Margo tried illegal hand wraps, he should be banned for ever!!!!!!!!
     
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  7. Philphy Rich

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    I wasn't convinced until he said it that second time.
     
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  8. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I mean, yes. You make a good point, a lot of these steroid users have a life long addiction to it so it's possible.
     
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  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: Seriously? I'm too out of it to know whether you're just messing around or if he actually said that.
     
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  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Get outta here with this bull**** ass post.
     
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  11. Azania

    Azania Active Member Full Member

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    I mean the man deserves his props for the stylistic changes he institutes on his fighters.he were timeswhen Shane loked materful in there...the counter-punching,the angles...the awsome lead left hook....All of these are signs of a good trainer...

    But the physical strength was astounding...I don't think anyone has seen Shane punch that hard in a long time....being the smaller man at that.The speed at times looked like prime Mosley...And he has that history with roids...
     
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  12. at1

    at1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i said this LONG ago man he is the best BEST trainer is boxing to have his fighters shut out pavlik and margo is HUGE
     
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  13. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl

    I read that he's currently got Shane on the "Margarito's heart" diet.
     
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  14. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
     
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  15. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Shane was NOT the smaller man...just the shorter one. Did you see his weigh in pics?

    As for the strength thing...

    Shane was the stronger man in the ring against Vargas and Mayorga...both of whom are stronger than Margo! It was the reason I picked Shane. Margo is his best when he is physically pushing his opponents backward and overwelming them in the process. I knew he wasnt going to be able to do this. And if he couldnt get Shane to backpedal, he wasnt going to be in his element...and therefore couldnt win.

    I definately didnt expect to see him get stopped, as Margo has a ****ing chin...but I favored Shane.

    As for the steroids thing...Shane passed a lie detector test with flying colors about the fact that he never knowingly took anything illegal. And also has a 12 million dollar defamation suit out against Conte (the one saying he gave them to Mosely)...who coincidentally has refused to take the same lie detector Shane aced.

    So the steroids issue should not be an issue with him. He is not Barry Bonds, or Roger Clemens...he is not in that mold. He is a man who was too trusting of his former trainer and the man he worked for.
     
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