nazim richardson on pac vs. mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by redz215, Jan 7, 2011.


  1. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Lance please read and reread what I've been saying.
    I never ever ever said Mayweather is more agressive now, but I did mention that he showed a more agression against Mosley than he normally does. I bring up Mosley because you said he isn't as agressive anymore.
    Let me say it again. Mosley isn't southpaw and the only reason I brought him up is because you were saying Floyd isn't as agressive as he used to be and I agree with you, but Mosley is an exception to that.

    Also all the video was showing is how Floyd is more agression towards southpaws. I'm not showing you it to you to prove to you that he's more agressive now, but I was doing it to show you he's more agressive towards southpaws.
     
  3. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem with this argument is that Floyd attempted to make the fight directly AFTER the Cotto fight. Perhaps, the result of the Cotto fight made him more firm on the decision to demand extra testing, but, he was fully engaged and attempting to make the fight with Pac in Dec./Jan.
     
  4. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    oh **** serious discussion started i better scram.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Floyd whoops emmanuel. emmanuel is a southpaw, but he's a very aggressive one thus leaving himself open to be countered and giving away his own angle advantage of being a lefty. Young chumps love to say the Mexican gangsters Morales and Marquez were successful due to their aggression, well Floyd is moar aggressive against lefty.
     
  6. gooners!!

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  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    This ^ from the guy who predicted Mayweather on points when the fight looked like going ahead.
     
  8. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    You're basing your analysis of this bout just on Manny being a southpaw...almost all the posts I see of you talking about this bout comes down to Pacquiao being a southpaw, and how Mayweather will struggle because he has to get off first, he struggles with southpaws, etc.

    However, Pacquiao isn't your typical southpaw, he's not a Judah, he's not a Corley...Mayweather will not have to go find Pacquiao, and I wouldn't advise him to. All southpaws are unorthodox, but Pacquiao has an unorthodox southpaw style, it is very unique...Mayweather won't have to worry too much about Pacquiao's stance. All of Pacquiao's other major threats far outweigh the threat of his stance alone. Pacquiao's speed, power, angles, very fast in an out movement, etc...Mayweather will be having to think about the previous rather/on top of Pacquiao being a southpaw.
     
  9. PH|LLA

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    not rather, more like on top of
     
  10. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I guess that's a better word...but do you understand were I'm coming from in that the southpaw stance not being the biggest and only factor in this bout?
     
  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    It's not the biggest but it's a huge one.
     
  12. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I disagree, man...I don't think it's a huge factor. It's definitely a factor, but it doesn't decide the outcome of this bout in my opinion. If Pacquiao was a "normal" counter-punching southpaw, then yes...it could well be a huge factor.
     
  13. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Think of this though. Mayweather has faced more fast fighters and more southpaws in his career than Manny has faced fast fighters and counter punchers
     
  14. OBSERVER7421

    OBSERVER7421 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lets be real, floyd might be able to hurt Pac but potshotting will never knock pac out.....he needs combos to get the job done. i said "might be able to hurt "because i've watch pac take solid punches from bigger guys and he just walked through it....when it comes to hurting an opponent refer to Pac last fights.......i agree that floyd is the more gifted but Pac is a better fighter .... with Pac's workrate floyd will not even outpunch Pac ....
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    This is why I had you on ignore. You just aren't boxing savvy despite the **** you talk. :patsch

    1. WHY did you even bother mentioning SSM when we were SPECIFICALLY talking about Floyd and Southpaws? Shane is NOT a southpaw. Your mentioning him while we are talking about SP's is pointless.

    2. You said you didn't say he's more agreesive, but posted this:
    He was NOT more aggressive vs. Corley or Judah then he is any other fighter.

    3. that video doesn't mean anything when you are making a comparison. You need somethiong to compare it to.

    :patsch