nazim richardson on pac vs. mayweather

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  1. d0pestradamus

    d0pestradamus Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd tends to press the action against southpaws, with a high guard turtle like defensive stance as opposed to his usual shoulder rolling back-foot stance. He demonstrated this stance when he pressed the action against Mosley, who is not even southpaw. Floyd has several stances to which he can switch mid-fight. Pac has only one stance and he is gonna come forward...The logical question is, will Floyd fight with a high guard defense against Pac like Clottey? Because if he tries to press the action, like he usually does against southpaws, he will get outhustled or stopped. If he does not press forward and turtles up like Clottey then Pac takes it just off workrate.

    I highly doubt Floyd will fight Pac on the front foot. He'll be boxing off his back foot, turning pac and making him eat laser right hand counters every time Pac attempts to close the gap.

    The wildcard in this fight is Pac's in and out motion, which is what creates his insanely short unorthodox punches which Floyd is extremely susceptible to, especially when leading with the left hook. Pac can get his straight left in faster. This fight can really go either way.
     
  2. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have you not seen the BIG difference between Pac fighting and Pac sparring?
    Because unlike you ****, I have actually seen him train in person.
    And although it's already breathtaking, it's a completely different animal on the ring.

    Or should I remind you again that sparring is for practice?
    Oh right, you're one of the stupid posters who believed "Pac was exposed by letting his spar partners wear 16oz gloves".:rofl
    That's... a real expose.:rofl

    I'm willing to do an avatar bet with you, for as long as you don't decide to go in hiding because of shame, should this fight happen, that Mayweather doesn't even get close to KD'ing Pac.
    NOT EVEN CLOSE.
    Hell I'll even bet you that Pac smiles and will egg May to "punch harder" everytime May lands.

    If the free beats (esp uppercuts) he allowed Cotto, Clottey and Margarito to put on him didn't hurt Pac, how do you expect xylocaine boy to do so?
    Oh wait, maybe you think that Floyd hits harder than Cotto, Clottey and Margarito, right?:rofl
     
  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    PBF doesnt have to majorly hurt Pac to beat him. JMM and Morales didnt drop or come near stopping Pac but they did counter him and win rounds. Cotto also won some early rounds counter punching him.

    In fact, quite the opposite to the above take, I would say PBF does better because he isnt expecting to KO Pac and that he plans on winning a 12 round decision and having a strategy and plan b and plan c ect.


    Now if Richardson is just meaning that Pac wont have no respect for PBF's power and will just walk through everything he throws, I dont believe that either. PBF will be countering pac and landing clean shots, Pac will feel them for sure and be weary of the counters and drop his output. I dont expect him to even be dropped but I expect him to loose a sizeable UD.
     
  4. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dunno Floyd had enough power to make his guy Mosley respect the **** out of Floyds power .....so badly that Mosley almost completely stopped throwing punches as a result. Floyd was able to handle rushes from stronger guys like De La Hoya and Mosley and able to figure out speedsters like Judah. I seem him frustrating Pac at around round 4 and **** going in typical Mayweather fashion from there while making Manny look like he gave up like most Floyd opponents look.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    That's because timing and precision is better than power. Cotto, who hits harder than Floyd, ends up riding his bicycle against Mosley. Floyd backs Mosley up and toys with him.

    Floyd also brings a different aspect to the fight, he's willing to clinch. Floyd will land bodyshots in side of a clinch, and emmanuel WILL feel those.
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    People worry too much about power. Pernell Whitaker, who is feather fisted compared to Floyd, had enough to make a certified granite chin like Chavez respect him. Learn from that.
     
  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:OMG you still don't get it Lance. I brought up Shane really for no reason to be honest, I was just saying ya I agree with you, but he did show more aggression against Shane. I AGREE WITH YOU, that Floyd isn't as aggressive as he used to be.
    Floyd isn't as aggressive as he used to be.
    Floyd isn't as aggressive as he used to be.
    Floyd isn't as aggressive as he used to be.
    Floyd isn't as aggressive as he used to be.
    **** do you get it yet. Now he was aggressive against Mosley, but I guess that's the exception, but that has nothing to do with southpaws. His aggression has gone down in all his recent fights (except Mosley), but when he fights southpaws, he gets more aggressive and he presses the attack and moves forward.

    We were arguing two things
    1. Is Floyd as aggressive as he was in the past and we both agree NO
    2. Is Floyd is more aggressive against southpaws and I say yes and you're saying no

    Floyd threw 600 punches against Corley and landed 283. Is that a typical Floyd fight?

    Why are you arguing with me for the sake of argueing, it is common knowledge that Mayweather is more agressive against southpaws:huh
     
  8. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was aggressive vs Judah because he felt Judah couldn't handle pressure. I don't know if he would use the same game plan vs Pacquiao who thrives off of guys coming forward and pressing him.
     
  9. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Timing and accuracy will help Floyd win the fight. I don't care what anyone says, if you keep getting hit with clean flush shots repeatedly you will hesitate to throw.
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I wouldn't advise it either. I think Floyd needs to stay on the outside and move around
     
  11. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    There is no way Mayweather isnt not gonna hurt Pac enough to stop him in his tracks.

    To think that would be foolish.

    Mayweather would win a difficult fight.
     
  12. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So to you thinking Mayweather would beat Pac isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of objective fact? And anybody with any degree of competency or expertise in boxing would clearly know that Mayweather would win? Is that what you're saying? Any disagreement with that is either bias or incompetence?
     
  13. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny will not walkthrough Mayweathers punches, you can see hes head snap back from Cotto's jabs. He "might" not get hurt, but it will stop him from coming in for sure.
     
  14. Scrap21

    Scrap21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only 2 scenarios I see. Is Sinclaire getting so defensive and gets outworked, OR gets knocked out when he actually fights like the way he fought against mosley. Floyd only throws at most 2 punch combos, that aint gonna work on pac cuz pac won't stop throwing unless u make him. Plus the southpaw stance would give floyd nightmares. Floyd sr. knows this.
     
  15. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hell stop throwing if theres nothing to hit, and gets countered while reaching.