Ned O'Baldwin, the Irish giant.

In the book about Jem Mace by Graham Gordon "Master of the Ring" Ned O'Baldwin was not rated highly by Mace. His recorded ring record is not that impressive, losing his first two fights, drawing two (both stopped by the law) and winning two (one fight requiring two rings because of police interference). Rated at best as a lumbering giant of limited ability who was always in trouble with the law in England and also later when he emigrated to the USA.

 

Good info. :good

In those days it wasn't hard to build up a fighter's reputation if the fighter was 6'5 and willing to fight anyone. A lot of big local toughs were "championed" by their backers as world championship quality after one or two fights, or alleged fights.
That's not to take anything away from the top men though (eg. Mace, Sullivan, Mitchell, Kirlain etc.) who proved themselves in big epic battles in front of huge crowds.

 

I have read about Ned O'Baldwin...The most intringuing bare knuckle fighter I believe was Tom Sayers...Sayers, barely 160 pounds or less, whipped the best 200 pound toughies at that time. Punching, Gouging, and Wrestling, and beating those giants of his time, make Sayers ,an alltime great in my book.....

 

A few articles I found:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9D07E6D8163BEF34BC4E53DFB5668388669FDE

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B0DEED8113AEF34BC4E53DFB4678383679FDE

Seems he got banned from New York, most of the articles are about him being arested or his shooting.


And some more about him challenging anyone to fight him:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9903E3DF163BE333A2575AC2A9619C946490D7CF

 

Looks a beast.

 

Awesome read! Had to go through pages to find this old thread again. I'm using some of its sources to clear up the debates in Box Rec about who was the best power hitter prior to John L. Sullivan.

 

Baldwin, Ned, of Waterford;
bn. by Andrew Marsden, 3r., 3.5m.;
b. George Isles, J50 a-side, 3r., 59m., Walton-on-Thames and down the river, February 19, 1866;
b. Andrew Marsden, J100 a-side, 11r., 16m., Holme Station, near Peterborough, September 25, 1866, ring broken in by Marsden's friends;
ft. to Joe Wormald, J200 and the Championship, London District, April 29, 1867, Baldwin being absent at the starting-place;
dr. with Jem Mace, J200 a-side and the Champion's Belt, October 15, 1867, Mace arrested and bound over;
fought Joe Wormald for, it is said, J200 a-side and the Championship of the World, 1r., 10m., all in favour of Wormald, when the police interfered, Lynnfield, Massachusetts, October 29, 1868;
Wormald failed to appear when ordered by the stakeholder, who awarded the stakes to Baldwin.

 

he played too much playstation

www.youtube.com/eslubin

 

Several retyped clippings on O'Baldwin.

http://senya13.blogspot.com/2011/01/ned-obaldwin.html

I'm too lazy to retype the long report in NY Herald on his last bout with Wormald. So, only a short quote about both fighters:

Joseph Wormald is a native of Poplar, in the East End of London. He is in his Twenty-sixth year, stands six feet in height and usually fights at about 160 pounds.
...
Edward O'Baldwin is a native of Waterford, Ireland, twenty-six years of age, stands six feet seven inches in his stockings and weighs 203 pounds.

 

:good

 

very interesting thread

 

Bumping the Official Ned O Baldwin thread for Rezniks thread on pre 1900 giants. Definitely some good reading here.

 

sounds like Tyson Fury

 

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