Need help: Final history essay

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  1. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey there,

    I'm studying history and the subject I chose for my final essay is: "Boxing training regimes and diëts trough times and ages".

    I 'm boxing for years now and I have always been interested in the long history of the sport, I'm also very interested in training regimes and diëts. So that is why I combine the two together.

    I have been reading the articles and forums of East side boxing a lot for years but never felt like posting myself.

    Now I do have a lot of questions I would like to ask the people on this forum.

    My first question is: Does anybody have information about the training regimes and/or diets from fighters of the past like Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Jack Johnson, Jake la Motta, SRR, The fabulous four, or other greats?
     
  2. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't help you much there, except that I know SRR used to drink beef-blood for strength, Archie Moore used to chew all the juice out of a steak and discard what was left to avoid gaining weight.
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    so did Ken Norton

    ill have alook at soem books then report back to you mr pook
     
  4. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have heard that of Archie Moore, didn't know Ken Norton did that to. In the film Raging bull their is a scene where the brother/friend of Jake la Motta tells him to do the same thing. And I think I once heard Bob Foster used to do that to. Must have been something normal to do for a fighter back in the days.

    I didn't know of SRR drinking beef-blood but that is very interesting.
     
  5. Dempsey08

    Dempsey08 New Member Full Member

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    So that SRR thing is True? for some reason i always thought that was a myth
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    There have been thread on this subject.

    I will try to dig one up for you.
     
  7. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've seen in documentary's and books people who knew him saying he did.
    Also it's known he had a meal with LaMotta before their 6th fight and asked fo a glass of blood from the kitchen which he downed in one, causing LaMotta to turn green and nearly keel over. I've heard that story told that it was a way to psyche LaMotta out, telling him he did it to give him extra strength and that it was a one off but I've heard that it was something he did regulary as well. Of course I don't know for certain which version is true.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think he did it to freak Jake LaMotta out before their title fight.

    It seems to have worked.
     
  9. janitor

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    Bob Fitzsimmons Training
    (Taken from the Mirror of Life, 1897)

    Fitzsimmons is a marvel in point of endurance. He is accustomed to take a certain amount of exercise whether he is matched to fight or not.
    Fitz is a great walker. Twenty miles for an appetizer is a daily event with him. This is at a gait which verges upon a run. It was this sort of training which used to surprise the early morning visitors to Central Park in New York just prior to his departure to Carson City.

    In company with Yaroum, his big canine pet, he would start from the Bartholdi Hotel at Twenty-third Street and Broadway, dash up Fifth Avenue, the most fashionable thoroughfare of the metropolis with the Great Dane prancing ahead him. Around Central Park he would go and then back to the hotel for a rubdown and an hour with the punching bag.
    The training which Fitz believes in differs from training the training of the average fighter. First of all he trains himself. He takes his own advice and regulates his own work and diet.

    "I'll do no more 18 or 20 mile runs" he said in his initial week's work. "I'll start off and run six or eight miles and then I'll walk back at a good nice gait. Next day I'll walk out my distance and run back. Another day I'll run a mile and walk a mile, alternating for 10 or 15 miles. Another day I'll follow the telegraph poles. I'll run at a top speed between two poles, then walk between the next two".

    According to his friends, Fitzsimmons is the possessor of no bad habits. Fitzsimmons has wisely remarked that if he couldn't keep himself straight with the prospect of a fortune before him no trainer could. Fitz had a visitor one time who wanted to know all about his mode of training. All Fitzsimmons did was to hand him the following schedule:

    6.30am - Rises, bathes, dresses.
    7.00 - Sherry and egg
    7.05 to 8.15 - Rides on bicycle (15 Miles)
    8.15 - Breakfast
    9.30 - Goes 15 miles afoot
    11.30 - Has rubdown and rests
    1.00pm - Dinner
    3.00 - Works in gymnasium
    5.00 - Showerbath and rubdown
    6.00 - Supper
    8.00,9.00,10.00,11.00 - Bed

    In the October 12 edition of the Dallas Morning News, it was reported that Fitz, after an ocean swim, a walk, a romp with Pat - his two hundred pound St Bernard, and some wood splitting, settled down to a breakfast table usually stocked with "oatmeal, muffins, steak, chops or chicken. He does not believe in diet or special foods." After exercising and a cold sponge bath there was a hearty dinner of "every vegetable the markets far and near can produce. These are flanked by generouis roasts of beef, mutton and pork."​
     
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