Need some help understanding Manuel Charr

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  1. GarethUmmDavies

    GarethUmmDavies Member Full Member

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    Apologies if this has been answered, but to my understanding Charr has held the WBA (regular) belt for around two years, and has not boxed in that period, nor did he box for some time before he was awarded it.

    Charr was never any good to begin with. He was a doughy-looking, mediocre heavyweight with no good wins. He then got juiced up (or improved his protocol) and seems to have been long since linked with this WBA (regular) belt. He's not a big draw nor ticket seller.

    Why was he awarded this belt? Why hasn't he boxed in years? Why does he still have the belt? Does this guy know people in high places? He has 2m Instagram 'followers' (does anyone really believe that?) and calls himself Diamond Boy, despite being 40. He also refers to himself on the Instagram biography as WBA champion "17/21/23/24".
     
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  2. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're right the instagram followers is very odd, I don't use instagram but it sounds like they're paid for. I'd guess some kind of money laundering operation.

    I assumed he had retired but just saw he's boxing Pulev next month (who I also thought had retired).
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    I once bough IG followers just to see how it works. It was a couple of € for a couple hundred followers. Mind you, this was years ago and my account still has the same number of bots following it. Every now and then I get notifications that someone new is following me, which are obviously bots. Meaning they replace the old, banned bots with new ones.
    The same site still offers 400,000 followers for just 1000$.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Pulev´s last fight was actually on a card featured on DAZN.
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    In the beginning, Sia told him to shine bright, like a diamond. To make a long story short: He did, forever, like he was a diamond in the sky, and continues on, till this day, and will continue on, until the rivers all run dry and life on Earth is through.
     
  6. GarethUmmDavies

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    Do you know how much Instagram followers cost? Doesn't seem like a very efficient money laundering operation! How on Earth is this guy running around in Rolls Royce and living a lavish lifestyle?
     
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  7. RagTag

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    More than likely apart of a secret society. Scientologist Charr is Undefeated.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    You can get 1.5 million followers for 3 to 4k USD. I for one believe that he is faking his lifestyle on IG, I seriously doubt he is as wealthy as he makes himself out to be. (renting cars, fake watches and so on.)

    But I wager he made a fair bit of money from 2012 to 2017. Not only did he have a fight with Vitali, but the Russians gave him some sort of deal too.
    In his last 3 fights, I imagine that he made at least 50k in each of those.
     
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  9. GarethUmmDavies

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    After the Vitali fight how much realistically could he have secured, net, following all expenditure and tax (if he paid it)? I don't think he'd have been getting very much at all. 50k is not very much, especially with how inactive he has been. I agree with you. He's probably faking it. Very strange behaviour. He seems extremely narcissistic when you consider the nature of the photos.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The case of Manuel Charr is very bizarre.

    But it's not too dissimilar to Fres Oquendo.

    It seems every generation the WBA have a HW fighter who's sole career is based around that belt and nothing else.

    But remember it was the WBA who stripped Ali. It was the WBA who never recognised Holmes. It was the WBA who kept giving Ruiz title shots.

    They've always been weird. Especially at HW.
     
  11. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The WBA stripped him in 2021 but he sued them and won so they are kinda stuck with him. Charr got a shot at this belt in 2017 after taking Seferis 0 and has never defended it.
     
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  12. Badbot

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    If he was smart with his money or had someone helping him, then I imagine he walked away with a hefty sum after 2017 concluded. And he has been based in Dubai for a while now, so taxes on his latest fights are not an issue.
    I don´t think he is a millionaire or anything, but realistically speaking he likely made some good money from the Vitali fight and his campaign in Russia.
    And these days his last 3 fights have likely thickened his wallet a bit, so he can keep showing off on social media.

    But now that I think about it a bit, I wonder if he is getting some sort of work in Saudi? Probably a sponsorship of some kind, I imagine.
     
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  13. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. Full Member

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    He s well connected to mafia in Cologne and Frankfurt.
     
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  14. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you were money laundering then you'd want to give the impression of being really popular. "Look I have 2 million followers on instagram, that's how I shift so much merchandise" or something I dunno.
     
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  15. GarethUmmDavies

    GarethUmmDavies Member Full Member

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    Good point!