Negative Effects of Roadwork

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I don't agree. Intensity is paramount. I can do 20km in my sleep but struggle to do 6 rounds of boxing- its all about intensity- there is no over-rating. A run is great- a circuit better IMO

 

he said long runs, 20 km a week is 12.4 miles isnt it? so thats approx 1.7 miles a day , not exactly LONG runs . That would be shorter fast runs . So yeh that probably would be more benificial than someone who skips a few rounds... but he did say long runs?

The traditional slow paced 45 min boxers plod run would be out done by interval jump rope training every time. if your talking about exercise for boxing as a sport

.... think you just fell into catagory a) and b)

 

Yep fraid he's right for me... long runs are good for a depleted boxer trying to make weight or someone wanting to be active and have a think. The lack of intensity means it has little training effect. Aerobic capacity might increase but in a largely anerobic sport a fast recovery is great but an intense workrate better.

 

I wrote about LSD training and the aerobic energy system a while back and I think it got taken quite a bit out of context. It is, I believe, the best way for someone to "begin" getting in or back into aerobic shape. It does have it's place.

However, the typical interval type training, training at threshold, and so forth is important also, specifically when getting closer to an event/tournament, etc. The problem that most make is they go directly into this type of training from the get and they experience all types of problems.

However, the idea that modern experts are completely discounting the benefits of LSD training is not true, as many do recognize its merit. It also has it's limitations.

Again, this is a sport, even at the amateur level, that derives 60% or so of it's energy from the aerobic system, and 40% or less from anaerobic energy. Therefore it is still largely aerobic first. In addition, it is aerobic processes that refuel the anaerobic system, therefore it is very important to develop this system as fully as possible. That being said, the whole aerobic threshold argument is indeed essential to a sport such as boxing on numerous levels.

 

I wish I did, then I wouldn't get riled by folk who will only see one side of the story. Like people who will only train max weight low reps or low weight high reps, without seeing the benefits of the bigger picture.

Only training at maximal intensity is daft. I'll use examples I've used previously:

The athletes with the highest VO2 max and highest anaerobic thresholds are cyclists and cross country skiers. Do you think they only do HIIT? If the optimal way to increase your anaerobic threshold is by skipping fast for a few rounds a week why don't Tour de France cyclists do it?

Neglecting long-ish runs also neglects the positive effects it has musculo-skeletal development and endurance. You want to get used to working in severe discomfort? Go and run 6 miles as fast as you can. Long-ish runs used properly have all kinds of benefits, mental and physical.

 

No Tour de France cyclist will have workouts of 3 hours plus, but this is also not beneficial for boxing. These examples do not work because they simply do not apply to boxing. Like the poster above you mentioned, it's a great place to start. Running slow long distances will increase your cardiovascular fitness and when you want to transition into faster harder runs, you will already have the form and repetition down ultimately preventing injuries. The reason 80 miles of running a week or something similar to what track stars do would not work for a boxer because those long sessions will burn muscle mass. A lean body is perfect for boxing but ZERO strength is going to result in one very weak punch.

 

Too much pressure on knee joints? You risk injury doing whatever exercise you choose to do. Knee joint problems is just a stereotype injury for runners and non runners always tend to bring this up. Should we not box at all? I mean this is a risk for head injuries:nut

I used to run marathons and 100+ miles per week was very common in my training regimen... Knee pain= zero. The body is amazing and will adapt to pretty much anything. The few tweaks bringing the thought of injury in the beginning of training people feel is usually enough for people to quit so they never know what anything feels like.

 

Who's talking about running 80 miles a week?

The examples do work because the aim is the same: increase the anaerobic threshold and VO2 max.

This has got way off topic anyhow. The question was about negative effects of roadwork. The answer is if it's not the only thing you do then for the vast, vast majority of athletes there ain't any, but there are plenty of benefits.

 

You mentioned Elite cyclists so I brought Elite runners into the discussion to at least show some relevance to the topic haha!

Anyways, I def agree with your last paragraph. It will benefit your training for sure.

 

Roadwork is vital to a boxer's training, but it indeed does come at a price when he/she gets older. George Foreman was asked not too long ago if he had any negative side effects from boxing and he said he was in great shape other than his knees, which seem to have taken a pounding over the years of roadwork.

 

the point is that long distance runs take up so much time for so little BOXING-SPECIFIC returns. instead of shuffling around for an hour try 5 rounds of fast jumprope (and not "a few rounds per week'), five rounds of intense heavy bag, 15 minutes of suicides with 1 min intervals, and you've got yourself some real exercise.
who the **** is talking about cycling, dude thats just really stupid.

 

this is the same as me. for some reason 10 mins of intense activity fills me with less horror than a slow paced 30 mins.

 

i think in an ideal world you would mix it up.

week one:
2x 5 kms at a fast pace eg 20-25 mins
2x intnese intervals and sprints
1 x intense circuit eg 5 rounds of burpees, sledge hammar on tyre, skipping, punch bag, etc etc mixed up

week 2:
1 x 5km run
3 x intervals and sprint
1: circuit

week3:
1 x 5km run
1 x interval / sprint
3 x circuits

something like that maybe? that way you would be miixing things up and hitting all aeropbic and anaerobic and hopefully have recovery time too.

 

actually looking at that prob too much intense stuff in there. maybe stick with 2 x 5km a week and have 2 / 3 sessions of intense around it. mix that up between circuits and sprints / intervals.

 

i like this , im not against running at all... probably have appeared to be... lol

if youd have put 10-15k each day id probably think that was too much

i think short fast runs are very benificial.