Nelson - Barrera

MAB UD but its been done recently

 

A draw is not out of the question for me, This is pretty even match i think this is both guys prime weight class ok First fight ill go with Barrera by majority decision. 2nd fight Nelson by a close decision.

 

Good matchup. Tough call. I think Barrera might have been a little too strong for Nelson.

 

You also feel Cotto was the better fighter over the last 10 years so no one cares what you think. :good

 

I am surprised by the early returns in this one! It took a seasoned Sanchez to take out a raw pre primed Nelson and took him 14 grueling rds. to do so. This fight tougned the previously untested Nelson who would not lose for years afterward against some pretty good comp.

I like Barerra, respect his toughness, and his clever performance against Hamed showed his ability to adapt his style if the situation called for it!

The situation calls for it, Nelson can choose to out box or out slug him IMHO, and I don't see Barrera having enough answers for him. The professor takes another one to school!

Lean towards and 8-4 decision, out of respect for MAB I won't leave the late KO option.

 

I think MAB is a better boxer, has faster hands, so if he loses it'll be as a result of simply not being strong enough...and that's possible. You're selling Marco short though, nobody ever "schooled" him..and neither is The Professor.

 

Nelson definitely showed a good overall skillset, but so did Barrera. Barrera was a strong featherweight. Speed to Nelson and like I said tough call but a good matchup. Barrera could be easily hit with the good straight punches.

 

I have alot of respect for MAB, and don't personally feel I am seeling him short as much as I am selling high on ZUMA!

 

Philly was really having a bit of fun I reckon Addie with a play on words. Though I dont think Azumah could school Marco in a traditional sense but his combination of savvy and physical prowess could spell doom for MAB.

Really could go either way this one and depending on how Im feeling on any day this question is posed I could go with either guy...I edge with Nelson more often then not but over 12 its certainly benefits Marco because he certainly versatile and tough enough to make it into the late rounds..and probably edge it home at least once in a series.

 

Nelson, Barrera wins rematch.

 

It was really just a play on words...words that Nelson often used himself both prior and following matches!

But in seriousness I don't see a whole lot of ways that barrera can pull this one out! Following nelsons loss to sanchez he would go on a 18 fight win streak dominating (maybe a strong word, but it fits) the FW and SFW divisions 13 by stoppage! Against some skilled opponents Gomez, Mcdonnell, cowdell, martinez X2, villisana X2 etc. Over 13 years and only Sanchez and Sweet pea at LW certainly not Nelsons optimum weight class were able to best him.

Now Barrera has a good resume as well 14 years with only 4 losses to Morales (not on my card though), Pac, and Jones x2! For only 3 years did he reign atop or among the top at FW! Nice wins though over hamed,morales, tapia and ayala with a lone loss to Pac (no major shame)!

by the time Barrera was a FW I don't really see how anyone can say he had the speed advantage from that handful of fights to gauge him by! If he tries forcing the action I think the professor would be able to counter and force back and forth to a nice advantage. I still think Nelson has the Power advantage as well, and barrera would be as wise to choose not to slug with him as was with hamed! I am not sure I see the game plan that favors Barrera in this one! I don't believe waiting for Nelson to stalk and trying to counter would be an effective way to deter nelson either???

Don't mean to sell barrera short as I have enjoyed him through the years, and have much respect appreciation for his accomplishments! I just see someone truely special such as a sanchez, pea, arguello as some favorites to toppel the professor. I like MAB again, but don't see the style or the level of excellance necesary to pull this one out!

Peace

 

Barrera's handspeed was often overwhelming, as a Flyweight it was, as a Featherweight it was often blindingly fast. I've never ever seen Nelson throw blinding fast combinations. If you could, give me some links to video footage of Nelson possessing "similar level or superior handspeed" to that of Marco Antonio Barrera. I'd encourage you to produce any footage from youtube that you can really and then I'll do the same, and we'll see who's faster. It's not really a close run thing for me, I think Marco definitely had the superior hand speed.

How many fights Nelson went undefeated is almost completely irrelevant when trying to determine who would win between them at Featherweight. It's a cliche, but it's so true, styles make fights. I can certainly accept that Nelson's strength, power, and his own ability is a lot to overcome. Marco could get knocked out, Nelson does possess that level of power, and he's strong as an ox, so if Marco wanted to counter he could simply be overwhelmed by an aggressive Nelson. I don't think Marco hits hard enough to hurt Nelson, but he does hit hard enough to gain respect.

I haven't seen nearly as much as Nelson as I have Marco, obviously, but Nelson comes across as someone who could be outboxed. Barrera's jab at 126 was better than it ever had been, and he was very mobile so he could pull himself out of range very quickly. If Nelson leads in out of frustration to hit Marco, he could be countered with 3-4's. We've seen this before, and considering I believe Marco to have superior hand speed, it's not inconceivable...at least not for me. We're talking a 12 round fight here I presume, and Marco never had a history of losing his poise, or running out of gas.

What elements to Nelson game would make that outcome implausible, in your mind?

 

Check out Nelsons fight with Wilfredo Gomez i remember being impressed with his speed, in my opinion probably his best performance. I think Nelsons speed at 126 was very good, he seemed to slow down a gear at 130.

 

Barrera is a pretty good boxer, but I only see him outboxing Nelson about as much as Erik Morales was outboxing Barrera.

What I mean is that Erik Morales would control the majority of the round against Barrera until Barrera exploded with a combination that rocked Morales and made the round much more contentious from a scoring perspective.

Likewise, I can see Barrera outboxing Nelson in spots, until Nelson explodes and rocks Barrera, thus making the rounds hard to score.

All this is moot for me though becuase I think Nelson would probably take Barrera out late. Barrera is too hittable at the end of the day.